News

New Order / Movement box set

Four-disc box set (LP+2CD+DVD) coming in 2019

In April next year, New Order will issue a super deluxe box set edition of their debut album Movement.

The remaining members of Joy Division decided to carry on recording under the name of New Order and the band’s debut album (recorded in late spring 1981 with producer Martin Hannett) was released in November of that same year on Factory Records.

The Movement box set features the original album on vinyl LP with its original iconic sleeve designed by Peter Saville, the album on CD (in replica mini-LP sleeve) and a bonus CD of previously unreleased tracks. If we trust the listing on Amazon, the audio is the 2015 remaster. The last disc in this four-disc package is a DVD with live shows and TV appeances (all the details below in the track listing).

The set also includes a hardcover book and all the contents come in a lift off lid box. Just before this box comes out, the band are also issuing the four 12-inch singles that were released around the same period but didn’t feature on the album (Ceremony original version, Ceremony re-recorded versionEverything’s Gone Green and Temptation). These are not included in the box set.

The box set is released on 5 April 2019. The four 12-inch singles will be reissued one a week, starting on 8 March 2019.

Compare prices and pre-order

New Order

Movement - four-disc box set

Shop Price gbp Stock
Amazon uk 6LP coloured vinyl box 89.39
Amazon de 6LP coloured vinyl box 131.99
Amazon usa 6LP coloured vinyl box 139.98
Amazon fr 6LP coloured vinyl box 109.99
Amazon it 6LP coloured vinyl box 104.73
JPC de 6LP coloured vinyl box 129.99
Currency:

Compare prices and pre-order

New Order

Ceremony version 1 - 12-inch vinyl

Shop Price gbp Stock
Amazon uk 6LP coloured vinyl box 10.19
Amazon de 6LP coloured vinyl box 16.99
Amazon usa 6LP coloured vinyl box 15.98
Amazon fr 6LP coloured vinyl box 13.99
Amazon it 6LP coloured vinyl box 35.71
JPC de 6LP coloured vinyl box 16.99
Currency:

Compare prices and pre-order

New Order

Ceremony version 2 - 12-inch vinyl

Shop Price gbp Stock
Amazon uk 6LP coloured vinyl box 9.99
Amazon de 6LP coloured vinyl box 16.99
Amazon usa 6LP coloured vinyl box 15.98
Amazon fr 6LP coloured vinyl box 13.99
JPC de 6LP coloured vinyl box 16.99
Currency:

Compare prices and pre-order

New Order

Temptation - 12-inch vinyl

Shop Price gbp Stock
Amazon uk 6LP coloured vinyl box 10.19
Amazon de 6LP coloured vinyl box 16.99
Amazon usa 6LP coloured vinyl box 15.98
Amazon fr 6LP coloured vinyl box 13.99
Amazon it 6LP coloured vinyl box 35.69
JPC de 6LP coloured vinyl box 16.99
Currency:

LP & CD1 (original album)       

  1. Dreams Never End
  2. Truth
  3. Senses
  4. Chosen Time
  5. ICB
  6. The Him
  7. Doubts Even Here
  8. Denial

CD2 (previously unreleased tracks)   

  1. Dreams Never End (Western Works Demo)
  2. Homage (Western Works Demo)
  3. Ceremony (Western Works Demo)
  4. Truth (Western Works Demo)
  5. Are You Ready For This? (Western Works Demo)
  6. The Him (Cargo Demo)
  7. Senses (Cargo Demo)
  8. Truth (Cargo Demo)
  9. Dreams Never End (Cargo Demo)
  10. Mesh (Cargo Demo)
  11. ICB (Cargo Demo)
  12. Procession (Cargo Demo)
  13. Cries And Whispers (Cargo Demo)
  14. Doubts Even Here (Instrumental) (Cargo Demo)
  15. Ceremony (1st Mix – Ceremony Sessions)
  16. Temptation (Alternative 7”)
  17. Procession (Rehearsal Recording)
  18. Chosen Time (Rehearsal Recording)

New Order – Movement DVD

Live Shows
Hurrah’s, NY 1980
In A Lonely Place
Procession
Dreams Never End
Mesh
Truth
Cries & Whispers
Denial
Ceremony

Recorded on 27th September, 1980.
Produced, directed and filmed by Merrill Aldighieri

Peppermint Lounge, NY 1981
In A Lonely Place
Dreams Never End
Chosen Time
ICB
Senses
Denial
Everything’s Gone Green
Hurt – instrumental
Temptation

TV Sessions
Granada Studios 1981
Doubts Even Here
The Him
Procession
Senses
Denial

BBC Riverside 1982
Temptation
Chosen Time
Procession
Hurt – instrumental
Senses
Denial
In A Lonely Place

Extras
Ceremony CoManCHE Student Union 1981
In A Lonely Place Toronto 1981
Temptation Soul Kitchen, Newcastle 1982
Hurt Le Palace, Paris 1982
Procession Le Palace, Paris 1982
Chosen Time Pennies 1982
Truth The Haçienda 1983
ICB Minneapolis 1983

12” Singles [will be issued separately]

Ceremony (version 1) 
Recorded at Eastern Artists Recordings in East Orange, New Jersey, during the US visit the previous September, New Order’s first single might, in an alternative universe, have been Joy Division’s next. The 12” single, originally released in March 1981 (the 7” having been released in January) including the original version of ‘Ceremony’, will feature remastered audio on heavyweight vinyl.

Side 1
Ceremony (version 1)
Side 2
In A Lonely Place

Ceremony (version 2) 
The alternative, re-recorded version of ‘Ceremony’ now also featuring Gillian Gilbert in the band was released later in 1981 and will feature the later alternative ‘cream’ sleeve rather than the original green and copper. This 12” will feature remastered audio on heavyweight vinyl.

Side 1
Ceremony (version 2)
Side 2
In A Lonely Place

Everythings Gone Green  
Originally released on Factory Benelux in December 1981, this 12” featured Everythings Gone Green, which had previously been on the reverse of the band’s second 7” single ‘Procession’ in September 1981,and ‘Cries And Whispers’ and ‘Mesh’ whose titles were flipped on the cover causing confusion amongst fans and compilers ever since. This 12” will feature remastered audio on heavyweight vinyl.

Side 1
Everythings Gone Green
Side 2
Cries And Whispers
Mesh

Temptation  
Featuring the full versions of both tracks this 12” was first release in May 1982 and were the first self-produced released recordings. With ‘Temptation’ being a cast iron New Order classic, this is an essential part of any New Order collection. This 12” will feature remastered audio on heavyweight vinyl.

Side 1
Temptation
Side 2 
Hurt

128 responses to New Order / Movement box set

  1. Martin says:

    The box set plus all four 12″ singles is available as a bundle from Lost In Vinyl for £115 plus postage, which I think is a pretty good deal. I’ve ordered it!

    lostinvinyl.org

  2. Martyn Alner says:

    Anyone else had an email from Amazon cancelling the E G G 12″? The email says “Our supplier has informed us that this item is no longer available”. Not sure what’s happening there?

    • Mark says:

      Yes. I got that as well. Very annoying. Have tried to source it elsewhere with no success.

      • dominic says:

        Maybe they’ve seen the kickback from the fans over the price and decided to include them in the Movement box? Yeah, who am I kidding!

        I was even more dismayed when I saw the book was only 48 pages.

        It does seem odd that the 12″s availability has disappeared, hopefully some kind of rethink is underway.

      • Martin says:

        It’s available at Piccadilly Records, Resident, Banquet Records, Jumbo Records, Juno Records, Rough Trade to name but a few!

      • Alex. says:

        Just got an e-mail from Amazon (UK), it’s back online. Ordered :-)

  3. David says:

    Crazy price but down to £90.93 today at Amazon.co.uk

  4. s says:

    Pointless and exploitative as they are going to do all of the albums – does anyone really want to get trapped into buying them all?

  5. Neil says:

    Lot’s of people complained about the prices of those hojo box sets and rightly so but at least we got an option there to buy the 2cd + dvd versions. I thought Mute owned their back catalogue now or am i wrong ?

    • Dr Volume says:

      New Order are signed to Mute for new releases, starting with their last studio LP, Music Complete, but Warners still own the rest of the back catalogue . Confusingly the Mute Logo is showing in the New Order (Warners) online store, and they’re selling Music Complete and the associated singles as well as the Movement SDE and the rest of the catalogue (btw New Order are one of the few bands who still do CD singles!) so I guess Mute and Warner are partnered up to some extent for their webstore.

      • FAC 183 says:

        Warners owned ADA (Alternative Distribution Alliance) handles distribution for Mute in the US (and possibly other regions), hence the “partnering” on the New Order website.

  6. Soren says:

    The price is crazy. In 2017 Warner released the Tango In The Night package: 1 x LP, 3 x cd, 1 x DVD for only 40 EURO.

    But I”am looking forward for the future New Order releases so I can get a new copy of Blue Monday on 12inch. Merry Chrismas to Paul and all SDE-readers

  7. Jozek says:

    I can’t wait for this.

    The extra material is a must for any New Order fan. My understanding is the owner of the Hurrah NY gig was not letting the film go cheaply (I don’t know this for certain) and I suppose to get the rights to the BBC stuff could of been difficult too, I don’t know I am not in the business.

    To actually get it all out for release is brilliant and it maybe on the expensive side, but as with all New Order releases it will be quality.

    Really looking forward to getting my hands on this and hopefully New Order will do the same for all the Factory releases, think it will be a tad too optimistic to get all the post Factory records done.

  8. Steve F says:

    All four 12″ singles showing as “currently unavailable” this morning. Any idea what’s going on? Listening to customer feedback, perhaps? Somehow I doubt it.

  9. Anselm Lee says:

    I would nod at the price if the box contained the 12-inch singles, but wow! I see that Amazon UK is not taking orders on the singles; I hope it is not an indication of a price increase coming.

  10. johnny says:

    HMV are doing the 4 singles as a bundle for £34 delivered…

  11. dominic says:

    @PaulSinclair – You’ve been intriguingly quiet on this issue sir. Is there an SDE investigation/intervention on the way for us to look forward to, or are you just understandably busy with Christmas?

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      The latter I’m afraid :) Haven’t been keeping up with all the comments but clearly this set appears to be overpriced. Perhaps the label and band are simply banking on the appetite for unreleased material to outweigh any monetary concerns!!

  12. Simon says:

    They should at least release the 12′ singles as cd singles as well.

  13. carsten hansen says:

    why do i get a human League flashback

    when i see the Price 110 pund

    and the big question are “do i really need this on vinyl when i already have it on vinyl 4 times already”

  14. Neil says:

    The prices of these box sets is getting way out of hand and i just wish people who complain about the price would stick to their guns and refuse to pay these prices and then the record companies just might get the message. Sadly though i don’t think it will ever happen and then they complain about illegal downloading when in fact they are encouraging it. I’m not too fussed about this album as it’s by far their worst but the fear is they pull the same stunt with the later albums and sticking vinyl in with CD’s is idiotic.

    • RJS says:

      “Sadly though i don’t think it will ever happen and then they complain about illegal downloading when in fact they are encouraging it”

      For obvious reasons, that’s not a problem anymore and I haven’t heard any record industry complaints about it for years.

    • peter mckenna says:

      lol, I’m sticking to my guns on this one with no problem. Disgraceful price point, and nothing here warrants it.

  15. Straker says:

    At the risk of repeating others, £100+ is taking the piss. Even half-price it’d be at the outer limits of acceptable for, essentially, one CD and a DVD as like many others I suspect, I have a well cared-for original LP (in matt stock sleeve) and a CD version of the same. Surely they must realise this when they’re deciding on the price?

  16. Dr Volume says:

    Does Bernard want a bigger Yacht? This is frustrating because the content sounds a lot more interesting than we’ve had from previous NO reissues / box sets. Although Movement is a patchy record it’s a very interesting stage in their development (still regenerating from being Joy Division) and New Order have been pretty sparing with archive material over the years so this bonus material is enticing, as is the TV footage.
    I suspect the live video material will be low quality video cam footage / audience recordings similar to the bonus live material that came with the ‘Live in Glasgow’ DVD, but nice to have nonetheless.

    Another vote here for a slightly less super deluxe option with just the CDs and DVDs for those of us who would be happy to pay for the music but can’t justify /afford the vinyl, book and big box.

  17. Larry Davis says:

    I think I figured out a solution here… Hang on to the last fixed 2CD 2008 titles and get this when the price drops… The demos and DVD and book look packed with goodies, give or take the vinyl album…the 12″ tracks are on CD2 of the 2008 double so unless you want em, they are not mandatory… As for wanting the 2008 program to continue through “Republic”, “Get Ready” and “WFTSC/Lost Sirens”, I understand they may not need actual remastering done, but the similar 8 panel digipack and compiling all the 12″ versions from vinyl and CD singles/maxis together would be most welcome… And yes, “Republic” could very much use a boost because the original album on CD sounds a tad flat, yet “Regret” was their biggest US hit and the other singles like “World (Price Of Love)” are great tunes…the artwork on the album and singles are striking too…

  18. True Faith says:

    To me, Temptation should be in the PCL set. This box set should have included the 7” single Procession and both Peel Sessions.
    Well done for finally having an official release of the Western Works demos.

    Can’t wait to see if the rest of the back catalogue gets this treatment.

  19. Don says:

    If this was available as a 2CD set, or even 2CD+DVD, I’d be interested. But I’m not going to pay for that enormous book and useless vinyl just to get the tracks on CD2. Also, how can they call this the “definitive edition” and not include the essential tracks that were included on Disc 2 of the previous Factory Years set?

  20. Steve F says:

    I’m a NO fan but, leaving the price aside, this doesn’t cut the mustard for me. A SDE edition of any album should include *all* of the associated singles first, and then demos, etc.
    Great to have the opportunity to buy the 12″ singles again, although I have the Factory originals. But what about the 7″ versions? Not to mention Procession, which never came out on 12″ or album (excluding a Canadian import mini-album).
    Yet another half-cocked NO release. 6/10, must try harder.
    If this was £35, I’d buy it anyway. At £100, no way…

  21. negative1 says:

    i knew this was coming out eventually.

    done deal, automatic buy.
    yes, i already have the vinyl several times over,
    the 12 inches, and some of the 7 inches.

    but i do want the DVD and the bo0k.
    and the demos look great too.

    of course, will wait for a good deal on the price.

    but it’s a very good compilation from what i was expecting.

    later
    -1

  22. EW99 says:

    There were *very* slightly different versions of In A Lonely Place on the original 12″s I believe. I wonder if they’ll use each of those on the new ones.

  23. mattNYC says:

    i’m a cd guy and dream of the day when they’ll release a complete 12″ singles collection (a la Substance) on cd. preferably before i keel over.

    • CJ says:

      Or a singles box set like we got for Bananarama or Belinda Carlisle or the forthcoming one for Paul Young–EVERYTHING on each CD; all the mixes and edits and b-sides. That would definitely bring me to the table in a hurry.

      • Larry Davis says:

        Me too…that way they can be true to the original singles, include all B-sides and mixes (7″, 12″, promo, unreleased), all non-album tracks, and go up thru the present day…have all the singles on here and have the upcoming boxes focus on the albums and demos…I would be very OK with that arrangement 100%…

  24. Stephen Gilmour says:

    Marbles

  25. Eric says:

    NO.

    (See what I did there).

    • Dominic says:

      It may be just myth, but that was apparently Peter Saville’s reaction to hearing the Siren’s album and subsequently providing the equally uninspiring artwork for that album.

      • Al says:

        Myth. The finalised sleeve was not due to Saville ‘hearing the album’ rather his alleged reaction to being asked to come up with a completely new sleeve at short notice. This was due to perceived sensitivity concerns from the label regarding the timing of 2004’s Indian Ocean tsunami. Rightly or wrongly. Ironically, his original sleeve (the lady under the waterfall) was later used anyway as the sleeve for the WFTSC (Single) 3 x 7″ bundle. This has been covered in both Bernard Sumner and Peter Hook’s books where – for once – their recollections roughly match.

        Personally, I don’t believe that anyone would have connected the two so someone was clearly being a bit paranoid at the supposed link the record buying public might make!

    • colm47 says:

      Hello Paul and Merry Christmas

      Still have my original Ceremony 12″, one of my favourite songs of all time.
      The intro has to be among the greatest intros top 10.

      Any word on any SDE for Unknown Pleasures next year, as it’s the 40th anniversary?
      Joy Division will always be one of my favourite bands ever.

    • Pádraig Collins says:

      No.

  26. Gary says:

    Blimey…that’s one hell of a book!

  27. Jazzmaster says:

    Ughh. Agree with so many comments from above. Looks like another tone deaf deluxe edition release. When will artists learn that people who buy vinyl only want vinyl and people who buy cds only want cds? Seems pretty simple to understand. But New Order have rarely gotten anything right when it comes to compiling their catalog. With the exception of Substance, it is littered with awful compilations and bungled deluxe editions. It seems that they pay more attention to the lift off box lid than the actual content of the release. Judging from the sharp decline in price for recent cash grabs by other artists, I won’t be surprised to see the cost of this one sink like a rock on Amazon in a couple of months.

    • frattonlad says:

      There is a market Jazzmeister. At the right price with the right material included – I buy vinyl and CDs in pretty much equal measure so a combo is not a problem. This fails on price and content. For me anyway!

      I bought this on cassette originally – those rather sexy large boxes that Factory issued in different colours for each band on the roster. New Order was white. So in theory I’m in the market for this.

      My complaint is, that despite 4 discs, it still does not contain all the period material. Presumably so we’ll all blow another 40 notes on the 12 inches. Well, sorry. I already have those and the price is too high just for the demo stuff I would like.

  28. Ian says:

    Ridiculous price. My wife would kill me, and rightfully so.

    • CJ says:

      On that note, how can they do the Bowie boxes, which all run at least 10 discs or more, for the same price as this rather anemic offering?

  29. Steven C says:

    Does anyone know the official name of the version of Temptation that appears on Substance and on Trainspotting? It clocks in at 7.02 and is not on the album or the previous deluxe version…

    • Gerbrand says:

      @StevenC

      From wikipedia: The song was completely re-recorded and released on 1987 singles compilation Substance, sometimes known as “Temptation ’87”. This version is now one of New Order’s best-known recordings, partly due to its appearance on the best-selling Trainspotting soundtrack; in the film the lyrics are sung by Diane while she’s showering, heard very faintly in the background during breakfast not much later and again during the scene where Renton is locked in his room.

    • Jozek says:

      @steven C

      The version on Trainspotting is the same version from m Substance, it was re-recorded in 1987 for the album

      • AdamW says:

        On the Substance sleeve “Temptation” and “Confusion” are listed as “New version”. It’s as official a name as any.

        • Scott says:

          I am wondering if this alt. Temptation is the version that is on the Something Wild soundtrack, which I prefer above all other versions (excepting the 87 since they actually found a way to improve on it, it’s just so overplayed).

          • Gerbrand says:

            @Scott & StevenC : Extensive information about versions of Temptation, names and releases/soundtracks they appear on, can be found on the wikipedia page of the song.

  30. Daniel says:

    New Order is one of my favorite bands but this is the same problems continue to irk me: (1) I see no advantage to forcing mixed-media box sets. Do a box set that is CD only, a box set that is vinyl only, and then do a true super-deluxe edition that is for the cross-platform completists. Put the latter in a special numbered box and charge the higher price for that version. (2) When something is supposed to be the ultimate edition it better have every song from that time period. I’m tired of new stuff being found later on and not sold on its own but instead repackaged again.

    Given all of that, I would buy this if there was CD only at a lower price. For now, spotify will be the way to go, which sucks on so many fronts (poor quality, band does not earn as much money).

  31. CJ says:

    I love New Order, and I would love to get this box, but at the moment it’s far too much for what I’m willing to pay, especially when the vinyl is something I would never use. Hopefully the price will come down at some point, because there’s not enough material present for me to justify over a hundred dollars for what would really amount to one CD of materials I don’t have and a DVD that would only get watched a few times. If they dropped the vinyl and lowered this to around $50 or so, I would be much more willing to part with my money.

  32. Larry Davis says:

    Love New Order and Joy Division…got the five fixed 2CD remasters and was pissed they stopped after “Technique”… Why did they stop?? Was it meant to be Factory only titles?? Will “Republic”, “Get Ready” and “Waiting For The Siren’s Call” ever get redone/remastered?? As for this first new multimedia box of “Movement”, I agree with the others in that the 2nd disc of 12*s and Bsides from the last program really should be included, as well as the related 12″ vinyl singles, and I hope this gets changed before it gets released. Will every New Order album in the catalogue be revisited this time or will it just be the first 5 albums yet again?? I really hate when an act or label starts a program like this and it never gets finished, and/or they do not tell us upfront what the whole picture will look like in the end… They just start it, keep us on our toes and then piss us off in the end…stop it and keep us informed please!!

    • Iain McCarthy says:

      The Deluxe Editions released in 2008 stopped with ‘Technique’ as these were only for the Factory albums. I think the campaign was officially called ‘The Factory Years’.

    • Matthew McKinnon says:

      The previous remasters were labelled as ‘The Factory Years’ so there’s that.

      ‘Get Ready’ and ‘WFTSC’ don’t need remastering.

      ‘Republic’… grey area. If you were a completist you would want a new edition, and the album itself could certainly do with a remaster. But the bonus tracks would all be shit, dated early 90s dance mixes by forgotten producers and DJs. And it’s a weak, weak album. It’s not a period I’d ever want to revisit.

      And to be honest, The Factory Years are pretty much the only years New Order have to sell themselves on.

  33. Jettyboy66 says:

    I have all those as original and PC&L, Low Life and just about everything else. Love listening to them all on crackly vinyl, it gives them a truer, grittier feel. I wouldn’t mind the CD2 and the dvd though.

  34. Isaías says:

    Does anybody know if the following 80’s albums will have the same treatment !?
    I looked for some information but I did not find it anywhere!
    Please can someone tell me all behind it?

    • GentleRabbit says:

      Not sure, Isaias, but I believe that it was a rerecorded version for the Substance compilation in 1987 – and is, for me, the definitive version (and maybe even their greatest track of all).

  35. gb says:

    as much as I want this, if the first pic is the box cover, it’s a no from me.
    a bit superficial I know, but it would just really bug me.
    this is my favourite new order album. and this is in my top 5 album covers of all time.
    no idea why such an Iconic sleeve is not being used on the front.

  36. Barney needs the money that badly? Or has he finally become the Gene Simmons of the post-punk movement?

    The more I see the prices for New Order material, the more I appreciate Peter Hook for doing his best to keep his prices reasonable and for offering such goodies as signed posters and books for a pittance at his (brilliant) gigs.

    • John 79 says:

      I totally agree Daniel,New Order stuff is really expensive,I recently went to see Hooky live in Clitheroe,they were selling large signed posters for £10 a really fair price and everything else was very reasonably priced to,Hooky is one of the very few artist’s that doesn’t rip off his fans and the show was amazing too. The is one thing I would like to say is that New Order are worse off without Hooky but that’s just my opinion.

  37. Andy Hartshorn says:

    Another eye watering £100+ box set, extra discs look good, would have liked the 2 CD plus DVD,they could have done this for £25 to £30, so will give this a miss. It will also be interesting to see whether they have managed to clean up the Western Works demos, every version I’ve heard is such poor quality. Pricing of box sets is becoming a real issue, a lot of bands/ labels could learn a few things from XTC or Marillion.

    • Solitude says:

      Andy, the original Western Works reel was auctioned on ebay a few years back resulting in excellent Flacs distributed on the web.

  38. Bart says:

    Its exactly the same treatment like Bowies New career in a new town box was treated. I mean lack of good , interesting and never published bonus tracks. Of course price is ridiculous.

  39. Caroline says:

    Anyone else tired of the following thought process:

    “Ooh, that looks nice, they’ve done a good job with thi….HOW MUCH???”

    • TheProgster says:

      Totally agree Caroline it’s way too over priced they are greedy an absolutely idiotic price…If anyone wants just the audio just go searching at the time of release for a torrent on some file sharing site it’s easy enough…If they sold this box set at half the price they would shift twice or three times as many copies.

      • Chris Squires says:

        So the way it works “If I can’t afford it or I just think it’s too expensive it’s justifiable to steal it?”
        Hmmm. Not sure that’s a suggestion that this site should allow or encourage.
        I’m nowhere near the morality police it’s just a way of thinking that doesn’t really suit the idea of what SDE is.
        Even Spotify has to be a better way forward than encouraging someone to just nick it, no?

        • TheProgster says:

          Yes true but you know it’s very rife on the internet for people to share files not like the old days where people made illegal copies of CDs and sold on to profit themselves and the artist loose out on royalties as well so double edged…file sharing is like the old tape sharing from the 80’s but now on a worldwide scale and yes the artists lose out but people will share files for whatever reason, lack of money/not interested in physical media or not keen on paying full price for a cd initially then buying the actual cd 6 months later for half the price when online stores shift stock to make way for new releases…for some people having the MP3 file is a stopgap until they actually buy the cd at a later date, for others they never buy any downloads or physical products they just want the actual music and if they can get it for free then there’s never really any way of all this stopping anytime soon.
          The artists know this and concert tickets have risen to compensate for this and they can still sell physical CDs at the merchandise stand after the gig or a signed edition from their website…touring is where they make their bread and butter now because before they were quite content at sitting back and not doing much and hoping this album will sell X amount so we don’t need to tour…they do tour now have to get out there and we get to see them at smaller venues so it’s swings and roundabouts and the way things are now unfortunately.

  40. Solitude says:

    I never thought that this material would come to light
    The extras content looks incredible to an old fanatic such as myself.
    Movement is my favourite album and this package is essential for the collection.
    I was unaware of the Cargo demos existence until now, so very eager to hear them.
    Yes, the package is overpriced and I already own a few versions of the vinyl but it is what it is and hopefully the price will come down to a sensible level.
    I wonder how many of these sets will be made?

  41. Johnathan Rotten says:

    Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?

  42. AdamW says:

    New Order is one of my three favorite bands, but this pricing is ridiculous. I might have considered it if the 12″ singles were included, but as it is I will not be purchasing this unless the price comes WAY down. Even the Music Complete octuple-colored-vinyl-plus-hires-download box was cheaper.

    • dominic says:

      On the official New Order website the price for just the Movement box is £120, which is definitely steep, but for an extra £10 you get the four 12″ singles included, which does sweeten the deal ever so slightly, though maybe not bringing it into the realm of perceived good value.

    • Nick King says:

      The New Order shop bundles it with the 4×12″ singles for 130 quid… Still expensive, mind… :)

  43. Emmanuel says:

    Which label is re-releasing it?
    Warner?

  44. Mark says:

    Is Movement really better than Low-Life? or Lies? I don’t think so. These record companies always have to stick with the chronology when they could just as well put them out at random which would be more fun. As mentioned earlier in this thread, will not buy if the vinyl singles are not included in the box. Think of it…that brilliant Perfect Kiss mix which was on a single (if their logic follows) will also not be included in the Low Life box (unless the record execs see the light by low sales of Movement).

  45. Chris Koziol says:

    Will be interesting to see how the demos compare to the Peel Sessions.
    Think I’ll wait for the digital release to decide if worth purchasing

  46. Rick Marino says:

    The 2-disc deluxe editions were ultimately re-released (without the plastic slipcovers) that fixed all the errors, and they sound excellent. They included all the 12″es & b-sides. I’ll stick with those for now.

    • Blake says:

      Does anyone have links to those corrected re-releases?

      I’ve only seen the ones with the plastic slipcovers (which, as Rick mentions – are the only ones with the faults), and really don’t want to deal with the hassle with buying/returning on amazon…

      …also – I never knew that they actually did correct those errors.

  47. Alessandro says:

    I would suggest Rhino to release a box set with all of their albums from “Movement” to “Lost Sirens”. A no-frills package a bit like the Joni Mitchell “Studio Albums” one (see below), with the 2015 remasters which are only be streamed or downloaded at the moment. The work has already been done by Frank Arkwright, if I can remember correctly (at least from “Movement” to “Republic”).

    https://www.amazon.it/Studio-Albums-1968-79-10-CD/dp/B0097AQEOK/ref=sr_1_2_twi_aud_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1545240372&sr=8-2

    Then a remastered re-release of “Substance” would be awesome. Some long mixes were altered/shortened, this time they can release them in all their glory. I’m happy with the recent “Singles” remaster, much better than the previous edition (much more listenable, with correct single versions and an extra track).

    • Kevin says:

      I would agree with the Substance remaster/reissue. Of course it would have to include all tracks from all formats. If I’m correct, the only recent (post-2000, let’s say) cd issue of the 1987 version of Temptation exists on that second Trainspotting soundtrack. It would be nice to have a decent remaster of that, for sure.

  48. andyb in the place to be says:

    Great band commanding ludicrous price for a box set with vinyl, I’ll stick with the last deluxe editions and the 50 pound note singles remasters done years ago for each single. Now if there was a third disc with the vinyl on, maybe……

  49. Chris Squires says:

    I’m glad I am not a fan. It looks like they have managed to pull off the impossible Venn diagram and upset everybody all at the same time.
    Lots of understandable head shaking going on. I am sure this will come down to something slightly less stupid come release date but whether that drop will be far enough for the many remains to be seen.
    What also remains to be seen is the quality and work done for the whole package. Is it more Roxy than HoJo or Vice Versa.
    Good luck chaps and chapesses.

  50. johnny says:

    Thanks Paul
    Did you miss the Everything’s Gone Green order links? You’ve got the other 3 singles, but not EGG

    • Stan Butler says:

      Looks to be UK Fac 12″s. Everything’s Gone Green was a Benelux release FBN 8, though available in the U.K. on import.

  51. Reed says:

    Wondering if the price is solely so Bernie and Hooky each can have their lion’s share.

    Western Works demos have been floating around the internets for some time. Wonder if they will be cleaned up much from those versions?

  52. Joe Atari says:

    This is clearly the first of a series of five stages to cover the five Factory issued albums and singles, most of which were not on the original albums.
    It’d be nice to know the rest are due by the end of 2019.
    A box set of CD replicas of all Factory singles up to World In Motion in 1990 would be good,
    but I’m not sure that’s on the cards

    • Anthony James says:

      “A box set of CD replicas of all Factory singles up to World In Motion in 1990 would be good”

      That was planned many, many years ago IIRC & then got cancelled so some fans made it themselves called it Recycle & made it available online.

      All the Factory singles with as many versions & remixes as they could find – it was/is fantastic. Then lawyers got involved & it got taken down.

  53. Iain McCarthy says:

    Was ‘Movement’ remastered in 2015? I thought it was only remastered in 2008 for the (much criticized) 2-Disc Collectors Editions?

    • Michael E. says:

      The albums have been remastered in 2015 (til Republic without Technique), but download only. They were remastered by Frank Arkwright and sound better than any other Remaster in my opinion (But without Bonus material). They are available in 24/96 too….

  54. Jan says:

    No sign of the full ‘Temptation 7″ and 12″ joined. :(

    • -SG- says:

      They are different recordings.

      • Peter Walker says:

        I believe the 12” version of Temptations starts (fades in) where the 7” version fades out (or the other way round) so it’s actually two separate consecutive parts of the same recording which would simply need joining together to create the full version

        • Mark Reed says:

          The two versions of Temptation are two different recordings from the same session and studio. You can join them, but the sequencer runs at a very slightly different tempo on each take.

  55. Wayne Olsen says:

    Keep us informed of any deals on this, Paul!

  56. Nick Love says:

    Does anyone else think the B-Sides and completed alternate versions and outtakes should always take precedence over demos? I’ve stopped buying releases with demo only bonus material altogether. Although the Rhino reissues from about ten years ago were a hot mess. I had to contact Rhino multiple times over the course of about 6 months to get the faulty discs replaced and even then there was no notice or tracking or confirmation they had even read my emails, they just showed up randomly in the post after I had given up.

  57. Bruce says:

    Assigning this is the start of another reissue campaign, this is not what I’ve been waiting for after the previous 2xCD reissue debacle.

    If they’re doing superdeluxe boxes of each album, what’s really needed–and I think wanted by fans–is something like this for each album:

    1xCD of the original album, no extra tracks
    2xCDs of demos, unreleased, live
    1xCD each for the contemporaneous 12″ singles (in replica mini sleeves)

    I’d be happy paying a high price if care is taken with the packaging materials and artwork. If anyone has the original 80s Factory CDs, you’ll recall, for example, Low Life has a velum insert and metallic ink, Brotherhood has a stiff metallic insert, etc. There’s no point making SDEs of these albums without going all in on Saville’s designs.

  58. Craig says:

    So again, a product that forces vinyl on people to get the bonus songs and DVD.

    Just release another version that takes out the vinyl. Is it that hard?

    And to not include the 12″ singles is just silly.

    Hopefully they will stop this before they get to the later albums.

  59. Rotem says:

    Do you actually sell it to anyone for that price…?
    I start to think that this is just a an attempt to make a web buzz, to see if there’s audience for these re-issues, hence the over-pricing of everything.

  60. Deano says:

    Would definitely buy a remastered CD if it came in 3 discs – original album, 2nd disc from the previous reissue, 3rd disc of the new bonus material.

    At the moment, it seems incomplete not having the previously issued bonus disc (lots of tracks from Substance).

    The last reissue set (from Rhino, I think) had multiple errors on lots of the discs, so it would seem a good opportunity to get a definitive edition of all their albums.

    But definitely not forking out for the vinyl which will never be played by me.

  61. Dave Pattison says:

    Thanks Paul, ordered bundle on New Order site for £130.00 total.

  62. kook says:

    Presumably, this will be the first in a series of deluxe reissues – in which case, I look forward to the rest of their Factory output getting the same treatment in due course.

    It doesn’t make much sense otherwise, given that ‘Movement’ is one of New Order’s weakest albums. Either way, I think I’ll probably sit this one out.

    (‘Doubts Even Here’ is a great track though.)

  63. David Carter says:

    Crazy price, I will stick with my remastered copy of the album which sounds great and only cost me a tenner

  64. PaulL says:

    Question: Will the DVD play in the US?

  65. Andy B says:

    Looks like a nice set. I’m not interested in vinyl though. I would just rather everything, including the contents of the 12″ singles, had been put on cd in the box set.

  66. Eric M. says:

    I love New Order dearly but that price is going to have to drop if they want these things to move.

  67. shaboo says:

    C’mon, this price is a joke, isn’t it?

  68. poptones says:

    Similar to the Doors and Ramones box sets (remastered LP + 2 or 3 CDs) but the price isn’t in the same range (£40-50) ! £109 ? Totally overpriced IMO.

    As I already have the album and 12″ singles, I would be interested by the demos and mostly the DVD. Don’t really care about the rest but the DVD tracklisting is enticing. I wouldn’t mind paying £20 for the DVD alone but not £109 for this Movement SDE. I hope the DVD will be available separately…

  69. BRENEZ Alain says:

    Completely agree even if New Order is one of my favourite all-time bands.
    This is far inferior to what they released afterwards like ‘Power, Corruption and Lies ‘ and ‘Low Life’. I remember buying ‘Movement’ on a very bad Italian (!) pressing at that time. Maybe that’s why I didn’t listen to it a lot.
    Also the 12″ singles have been released so many times or as part of multiple compilations.
    I would rather prefer a box set of ‘Low Life’ or ‘Power, Corruption and Lies’, their 2 masterpieces.

  70. Brixet says:

    £100!?!? etc etc etc. It’s 4 months away. As if it won’t come down in price, like EVERY release like this does.

  71. Phil G says:

    A £100+ box set and they couldn’t even throw in a CD of the four 12″ singles.

    It’s a hard pass from me.

    • andyb in the place to b says:

      that would be a foolish thing to do, you are forced to buy the vinyl to get these tracks missed form the box set.

      Even though I haven’t had a turn table for 13 years – I suppose I could put my finger through the hole spin it and put a nail into the grooves.

      Actually probably cheaper to press a CD than 4 bits of vinyl.

  72. Trash says:

    Interested but ‘Wow, that price!’ :-(

  73. Charles Coopet says:

    I guess it may still come down in price but that’s just not worth GBP 100. Max 50-60 and that’s already a stretch as far as I’m concerned…

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *