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Paul Weller / Other Aspects: Live at the Royal Festival Hall

Paul Weller / Other Aspects: Live at the Royal Festival Hall

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Hot on the heels of Paul Weller’s excellent True Meanings album comes Other Aspects an audio/video release of last year’s celebrated concert at London’s Royal Festival Hall with featured Weller, band and an orchestra.

Other Aspects: Live at the Royal Festival Hall is being issued as a 3LP+DVD set or a 2CD+DVD package. Both feature 25 tracks although as you might expect the setlist is heavy with songs from Weller’s most recent album (11 of True Meanings 14 tracks are performed.

As has become the normal in terms of promoting home video releases, there will be special cinema screenings of the performance across the UK, and these will include some never-before-seen studio footage, rehearsals and interviews exclusive to these cinema events.

Other Aspects: Live at the Royal Festival Hall is released on 8 March 2019.

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Other Aspects: Live at the Royal Festival Hall 3LP+DVD

Side 1
1. One Bright Star (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Glide (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. The Soul Searchers (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Boy About Town (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

Side 2
1. Have You Ever Had It Blue (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. What Would He Say? (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. Wild Wood (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Country (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

Side 3
1. Aspects (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Strange Museum (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. Amongst Butterflies (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Old Castles (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
5. Gravity (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

Side 4
1. Where’er Ye Go (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. A Man Of Great Promise (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. Mayfly (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Private Hell (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

Side 5
1. Tales From The Riverbank (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Movin On (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. Long Long Road (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Hopper (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

Side  6
1. White Horses (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Books (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. You Do Something To Me (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. May Love Travel With You (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

DVD
1. One Bright Star (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Glide (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. The Soul Searchers (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Boy About Town (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
5. Have You Ever Had It Blue (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
6. What Would He Say? (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
7. Wild Wood (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
8. Country (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
9. Aspects (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
10. Strange Museum (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
11. Amongst Butterflies (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
12. Old Castles (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
13. Gravity (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
14. Where’er Ye Go (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
15. A Man Of Great Promise (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
16. Mayfly (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
17. Private Hell (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
18. Tales From The Riverbank (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
19. Movin On (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
20. Long Long Road (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
21. Hopper (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
22. White Horses (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
23. Books (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
24. You Do Something To Me (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
25. May Love Travel With You (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

CD 1
1. One Bright Star (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Glide (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. The Soul Searchers (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Boy About Town (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
5. Have You Ever Had It Blue (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
6. What Would He Say? (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
7. Wild Wood (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
8. Country (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
9. Aspects (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
10. Strange Museum (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
11. Amongst Butterflies (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
12. Old Castles (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
13. Gravity (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
14. Where’er Ye Go (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

CD 2
1. A Man Of Great Promise (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Mayfly (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. Private Hell (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Tales From The Riverbank (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
5. Movin On (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
6. Long Long Road (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
7. Hopper (Live at the Royal Festival Hall
8. White Horses (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
9. Books (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
10. You Do Something To Me (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
11. May Love Travel With You (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

DVD
1. One Bright Star (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
2. Glide (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
3. The Soul Searchers (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
4. Boy About Town (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
5. Have You Ever Had It Blue (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
6. What Would He Say? (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
7. Wild Wood (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
8. Country (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
9. Aspects (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
10. Strange Museum (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
11. Amongst Butterflies (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
12. Old Castles (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
13. Gravity (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
14. Where’er Ye Go (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
15. A Man Of Great Promise (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
16. Mayfly (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
17. Private Hell (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
18. Tales From The Riverbank (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
19. Movin On (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
20. Long Long Road (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
21. Hopper (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
22. White Horses (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
23. Books (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
24. You Do Something To Me (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)
25. May Love Travel With You (Live at the Royal Festival Hall)

111 responses to Paul Weller / Other Aspects: Live at the Royal Festival Hall

  1. Mathew Lauren says:

    Respectfully, I think Paul’s point is getting buried in the lead here. It’s about AUDIO QUALITY, so while Tull’s cd/dvd pkgs are the best bang for buck, I originally wouldn’t budge ‘cause it wasn’t DVD-A. How will the RE-reissue of “TAAB” 5.1 come? Blu-ray? I relented because my equipment is such that NO ONE can tell the difference between DVD-A & dts 24/96 DVD-V on my system – unless playback is DIRECT w/NO “sweetening.”

    That said, I purchased a state-of-the-art ATMOS AVR and commensurate players in anticipation of HIREZ 24/96 4K BLU ATMOS. It may never happen if Paul’s theory is found to be incontrovertible fact.

    Shame.

    I agreed whole-heartedly with this last piece. Paul is on the money. 2019 looks to be a sh!te year for not only QUALITY-mixed lossless surround, but little 5.1 of note, as well. Shame.

  2. wayne A KLEIN says:

    The concert was shot in high def. The fact that Mr. Weller and his label have elected not to release it this way is…frustrating and demonstrates the tin ear of the label.

  3. Doug says:

    Interesting that Rob Puricelli (below) mentioned licensing issues. I was told that the reason Arcam (a high quality audio BD player manufacturer) didn’t upgrade its range of players was the prohibitive cost of licensing. Like OPPO, it too seems to have stopped manufacturing BD Players. Although this won’t be the sole reason for the apparent decline in interest from some companies to release BD product it is clearly a contributing factor because if the high-end (and mutli-format) players aren’t being made then it will dent confidence in the BD format in the general public.

    However, I believe that the limited range of BDs to buy (particularly for audio) is the main reason deterring many people from investing in a player, especially as I hear so many people saying that hard discs are dying formats (CD, DVD, BD, whatever). When VHS and DVDs were first marketed there was a flood of titles available which provided some incentive for the public to buy the players. I haven’t seen the same intensity of marketing with BDs and with the hold that streaming services now have on the ‘market’ it is starting to feel like it’s almost too late to expand the hard product corner of that market.

    There’s an educational component to the marketing too as there are still people asking me what the benefits are of having Blu-ray discs/players. There was some attempt to address this with short marketing video segments on some DVD releases but as the benefits also need to be experienced, this alone isn’t going to swing things.

    I suspect the high-end corner of the market that many (most?) SDE readers enjoy is going to be limited as long as more/most people go for convenience rather than sound quality in their listening choices but it certainly doesn’t seem as though the music companies have exploited the full potential demand for their ‘product’ on BD. It would be interesting to hear someone from within one or more of the major music companies to explain the prevalent attitude towards curating SDE sets and how decisions are made about which format(s) to issue releases on. Not sure whether any of them would be brave enough to stick their heads above the parapet though.

  4. Rick Marino says:

    Blu-Ray Audio & SACD have been the 2 biggest losses of the music industry if they’re ultimately abandoned. The Rolling Stones 60s catalog, sadly, was only released in limited quantities in its initial run on SACD (I have them all). As far as Blu-Ray audio, you haven’t heard The Yes Album, Fragile & Close To The Edge until you’ve heard them on Blu-Ray Audio. The different masters (Rhino, as well as “vinyl drop” masters are included, and the difference is astonishing. It’s been poorly promoted by the industry, if at all. They really dropped the ball on this.

  5. Tobias says:

    Agree! It’s confusing to see super duper mega deluxe limited edition box sets being released and not using the best media available. I understand that a lot of people are still using DVD players and not “ready” to upgrade yet(?)
    But you can partly blame the market for that too. If not releasing enough interesting blue ray material, why bother upgrading? Especially since the deluxe boxes only have dvd discs anyway…
    The Pink Floyd – Immersions box sets are on the other hand a great example of how it should be done! Both dvd’s And Blu-ray’s with the same content but the blue ray discs containing high definition picture and audio!

  6. Anders Hannus says:

    I haven’t bought a dvd in years. Only Blu-ray. While it possible to put 24/96 stereo on a DVD-V it’s not common. And lossless 5.1 can only be made in DVD-A and that format is pretty much dead now. No Blu-Ray is the way to go.

  7. Matthew Collier says:

    Most people have already said it, but I’ll chip in too.

    1. In this day and age, generally speaking, I won’t buy a DVD of anything! (unless, it’s a REALLY rare release of something “old” that doesn’t exist in any other decent format).

    2. I always look to buy a BluRay of any music, film or Boxset (for much nicer (usually video), hi-res audio (usually) and multi-channel (hit and miss)).

    3. You don’t need an amazing stereo to hear the difference between Dolby Digital and DTS, let alone DD/DTS and Dolby TrueHD/DTS-MA HD – they easily sound much better on any average system!

    4. I always want hi-res multichannel music (and with concert videos at least, where this is quite common), so I always want the BluRay.

    DVD can only carry stereo hi-res PCM, so it sucks for any SDE box set where the hi-res multichannel mix is available (I’m looking at YOU Rhino/Fleetwood Mac – the White Album boxset was tragic (but lovely), when the 5.1 mix was released on DVD in lossy and nasty Dolby Digital. The fact that it didn’t sound as bad as DD usually does, was a small relief but still I feel cheated on that one! :( – what a missed opportunity though! :( )

    Alan Parsons hits the nail on the head IMO, with a full boxset with all the toys if you want it, followed by the standalone BluRay/CD, and also “plain old” CD release as well, following the boxset (and makes that clear up front). Now I’m waiting in hope for I-Robot hi-res 5.1 release on Blu some time before I die..!!! ;) :) (along with all the supposedly in-the-works Pink Floyd hi-res/multichannel releases coming)

    One other thing, if they don’t want to invest in the physical “high end” product, then why not provide the hi-res multichannel via the online purchase/streaming sites? You can only ever get the stereo hi-res release online, so we’re in a rock and a hard place… :@

    Cheers,

    Matt.

    • Paul G says:

      I wish that multichannel 5.1 audio could be downloaded as FLAC files. All the stuff that is sat waiting to be released but never was because SACD and DVD Audio never took off (Elton John comes to mind)..

    • Julian H says:

      I disagree that Alan Parsons gets it right. A) There is no way of getting the extra content from the CDs without buying the box set including vinyl and lots of useless tat. B) The new remastering of Eye in the Sky on CD was awful and I don’t get why he couldn’t just replicate the 2007 remaster for that, or use whatever transfer he used on the Blu-Ray.

  8. Shawn C. says:

    Paul, completely agree with your arguments about bluray. It’s hard to imagine that there is a large population of individuals who continue to consume physical media who have not invested in a cheap bluray player, for that matter any PS3, PS4, or XboxOne will also play bluray.

    For a while there was a trend for music video releases to include both DVD and bluray in their physical packages, apparently to accommodate all concerned. For the most part, they seem to have moved away from this and, as you say, resorted to simply DVD – not acceptable. I agree with moving away from both DVD and bluray, but it should be in the other direction as bluray has been around a long time now. Meanwhile, other outlets have found success with packaging product filmed on video that may not even need bluray (e.g., classic Doctor Who). Seems like bad decision making by someone in the music industry. At least some give us the best they can, for example Marillion’s recent deluxe editions have all included bluray content.

  9. Rodolfo Martin says:

    There is nothing wrong with the DVD if it is only for Audio. It works. But for video, blu-ray has to be the format. BTW, nobody has mentioned, I guess, that there is a better physical format in the market which is the 4k disc. I have some movies in that format. It has not been explored for music yet and it has not been included in any SDE. If the Beatles, just to say one, come out with a restored edition of the movie Let It Be (please, Paul McCartney, say yes”), what would the format be? Most of the official Beatles movies have been restored decently. I understand that old TV material cannot be upgraded but film material is restorable. It is a lot of work and it must be costly, but fans pay for it. Fans complain for excessive $$$ but we end up paying if the quality is what we expected.
    Just to talk about recent releases, Steve Hackett has abandoned the blu-ray option and now Paul Weller (probably this new concert if filmed in 4k quality). They might be thinking of a separate release in blu-ray, as TFF did? I wish.
    Paul, is there any contact in the industry that you can reach and have an idea of what these brains are thinking? Are you trying? Thanks

    • Chris Squires says:

      I would hazard a guess that any concert filmed in 4K today is more likely to be aimed at Netflix / Amazon rather than “We can make a BD / 4K disc of this” and sell it. It does seem a shame that because “the many” seem to have no care for quality, just delivery (iphone / tablet etc) that companies assume everybody is the same and maybe if they think like that for long enough the figures will prove them right. If they don’t release it we can’t watch / listen to it then the self-fulfilling prophecy is correct.

  10. Graham Robinson says:

    Just read the email commenting on the preference for DVD over BluRay in releases. The problem is that those who have taken the jump (King Crimson, for example) have seen their forums have a steady stream of “why no DVD, I can’t play BluRay” posts, but few of us stating the opposite (“thank you for not making me pay for a useless DVD I’ll never play…”)

    I agree that the “I want to buy a £100+ box set but can’t afford a £40 bluray player” arguments are a bit bizarre, but they exist, and I suspect that’s the reason for the reticence. Plus, for Jethro Tull, for example, what would we gain? The music’s already in a hi-res 5.1 stream, there is basically no hi-def video to go with it. Are we losing anything? Having the music spread across two discs rather than one seems little to complain about.

    In short, I’m okay with DVD unless there’s a hi-res video to include, but what I really loathe are the ones who put the same stuff on both DVD and BluRay – pick one, already!

  11. andy b in a world gone bonkers crazee says:

    Was there this kinda of hooha over moving from vinyl/cassette to CD in the 80’s, I think not, so why not move from DVD to Blu-ray.

  12. Jeremy kay says:

    Crazy in this day and age to have no blu-ray, maybe they think because the world has gone over the top retro with the vinyl resurgence that we all want to stick to DVD instead . In all seriousness I think it’s daft, as you point out, we all run HD tv’s, a blu ray player is hardly expensive and pretty much everyone will appreciate the improved visuals even if they don’t have an audio set up attached to appreciate the audio benefit. If you are a gamer too and/or have kids you’ve likely already got a blu-ray player in the form of a PS4 etc too to play them in. For me it just stinks of the industry being a bit tight fisted, saving a couple of quid, without actually thinking of the market they are aiming their product at. As you note those of us who still care about the physical formats and I really expect blu ray in this day and age, as standard, not even an option and certainly not the other way around. This is even more especially true of the super deluxe or collectors sets, you pay a massive premium for a product aimed at a small market yet you cannot provide a premium format within it. Moan over, maybe the next super deluxe editions will have a VHS video included?? :-)

    • andy b in the a world gone crazee says:

      Actually HMV have released DVD in VHS packaging, the world has gone crazy. I expect super deluxe’s to include VHS/Betamax and Wax cylinder/78RPM vinyl from this point on.

  13. Jonathan says:

    Totally agree with your comments Paul and I wouldn’t buy dvd. In the case of the earlier Depeche Mode comparison I personally bought the HD download but if this hadn’t been available I wouldn’t buy the dvd copy instead; dvds just don’t look great on large TVs even with upscaling in my opinion.

  14. Mike the Fish says:

    Basically, whatever the record companies do, someone will complain. I get the only £40 to buy a BD player argument, but will the picture processing be good enough (no judder on horizontal panning, for instance)? Also if someone is running a surround system without HDMI there’s potential significant upgrading cost there to get a new amp that’s up to the quality of their old one.

    • Graham Robinson says:

      Decent quality amps have had HDMI inputs for, what, 15 years now? Are there really that many people for whom this is an issue?

  15. TRACY says:

    Very comprehensive article Paul. I always buy Blu-ray over DVD if I can get it. If there was a Blu-ray, and I bought the DVD, I would feel I haven’t got the best product I could get. The same with CDs. If there is a deluxe version of a CD and a standard version I would buy the deluxe otherwise you are not getting the best version. The only time I would buy DVDs is if it wasn’t available on Blu-ray. I am not interested in 4K. Record companies should produce both formats as a lot of us have moved on from DVD. I cannot understand why anyone would not have moved on from DVD to Blu-ray by now. People always have to have the latest tech and mobile phones it would seem, but they are stuck in the dark ages when it comes to DVDs and cannot be bothered to buy a Blu-ray player and like you said they are dirt cheap. I am not interested in the latest mobiles but Blu-rays are important to me.

  16. Mike Bushell says:

    Excellent article, Paul. Well said.

    I’m very disappointed that the industry seems to be sticking to DVD and not Blu-ray for video products. The only reason I can accept is that the original source is of very low definition that DVD is all that is required. That being said, there’s really no excuse for not having a Blu-ray player when new ones are from £40 -surely when a DVD player packs up, you buy a Blu-ray player at this kind of price. I’m not interested in Blu-ray audio.

    The continuing focus on DVD can also be seen on all visual products though, especially in HMV. My last visit to a store, a couple of weeks ago saw plenty of interest in CD, some in vinyl but almost none on DVD or Blu-ray. Thinking about how I use video-based products in general I’m finding that I’ve almost stopped buying them. The preponderance of box sets on Sky and now the BBC, plus Netflix means I’m not sure I need to own any video or film product. With music-related video product (live films, additional content in SDEs, etc.) I might watch them once and then that’s it. I’ll always want the audio part of the package but everything else is increasingly superfluous. I can’t believe I’m saying this on this site, but that’s how I feel.

    I’ll get my coat.

  17. Kees kerdel says:

    It is not about the quality of the video or audio. It is the market that dictates. If there is no big money involved, the producers will not do it.

  18. Steve says:

    Depeche Mode released Tour of the Universe back in 2009 on Blu-ray to fans delight. The first time the band had done this.
    Only to release their next one Delta Machine live in Berlin only on DVD.
    The fans were not happy. It looked dreadful. There was a huge fuss and Anton Corbjn the director had to make a statement saying that he ‘preferred the way it looked in standard definition’ this disputed the fact that you could download the HD version from iTunes.
    My view is it’s purely to save money. And when a band as big as Depeche Mode are doing it it can’t be good.
    We’ll see if the complaints of fans are heard with their next live release this year.

  19. Mark Norton says:

    Couldn’t agree more, blue ray is the better format and until the next best thing arrives, record companies should be using the best out there to satisfy their customers. I will only buy a box set with dvd if there is no blu ray version and even then I am annoyed that I have to back step so to speak to be able to add that box set to my collection!

  20. Eduardo says:

    I don’t understand it. We’re in the 4K technology nowadays, and the 8k is beginning. Why the major companies insist on DVDs and low resolution formats (audio and video).
    They should take Steven Wilson as an example.

  21. Ruedi says:

    If there’s no BluRay but only DVD I don’t buy it. It’s that simple

  22. Guido says:

    I do not understand why HD filmed content gets issued only on DVD, which looks poor on my large 4K screen.
    The same thing with Bowie‘s Glastonbury Set. I don‘t buy DVDs!
    Music Blu-ray releases generally are slowed down significantly.

  23. Josh says:

    I couldn’t agree more about the importance of using blu ray as the standard for deluxe edition boxsets. It’s definitely been the standard for anyone with a home theater system for years and now that the world is advancing even further ahead into 4K territory, including a DVD to provide additional A/V product seems like blatant disrespect to both the artist and consumer.

    I will say that the audio tracks on DVDs typically sound quite good. However, the audio tracks on blu rays can be stunning on a quality surround sound speaker system (the INXS 30th anniversary Kick deluxe edition comes to mind). On the visual side of things, even while old footage may only be in standard definition, it’s just tacky when you have a low-res menu image playing on your 4K television. Overall, it’s just a shame when a landmark work gets substandard treatment.

  24. Ausmonty says:

    The only reason I can see, is that the record companies can then offer a Blu-ray version at an added cost to the consumer.

  25. Ruben says:

    Completely agree Paul.
    I like to think some in the industry are aware of this blog, so perhaps it will have an impact

  26. Hi Paul, I am a long-time lurker… we are talking years now… and i’ve never thought I could add something to the conversations so I’ve simply read until I find my opinion in the list …and I have read your articles regardless of whether I am a fan of the music you were talking about. You helped me “prepare my unbridled excitement“ for the Beatles 50th anniversary, and you allowed me to get one of the rare red copies of the (not nearly as bad as it sounds) T. Rex Remix 3-LP. [ This is coming from someone who is Mark Bolan vinyl collection actually dwarfs the Zappa vinyl collection if you can believe that! ]

    Anyways, this was a short, succinct, and very objective take on something I’ve been observing as well. Thank you for your eloquent writing, and your dedication to the art and beauty of physical products. – from a quiet bar in Los Angeles

  27. Phil aeducate says:

    Paul, i agree with you 100% about the blu-ray versus DVD issue. Blu-ray is no longer “brand new” and BR players have never been prohibitively expensive. So I can’t see any legitimate reason for consumers of “special edition” music releases to not be upgrading to BR, and therefore i have to assume that the music industry’s reason for not incorporating blu-ray discs in their special releases is that they want to save a few pennies on each package. i hope we can make them understand that music fans like us eoul$ be happy to pay $19.95 for a package with blu ray discs rather than $18.95 for s package with DVDs.

  28. Nigel Quinless says:

    I point blank refuse to purchase dvd. It’s blu-ray or nothing. Get your acts together.

  29. Gareth says:

    Maybe I’m in the minority here, but whilst I have a Blu-ray player, I’m from a generation that grew up on VHS and still manages to enjoy things recorded and rendered on appalling quality on YouTube. DVD is ‘enough’ quality for me. It’s such a vast improvement on what was available for most of my life, my resolution needs are more than being met. Beyond a certain point, I’m enjoying what’s on screen, not noticing the number of lines. I own a handful of Blu-rays and can’t get excited about them over a standard dvd. I suspect I’m not alone.

    The other killer point is my systems. Music system completely separate from TV. I can’t be arsed to fire up the tv, surround sound etc to listen to music. It feels weird, is in the wrong room half the time and doesn’t sound as good as my hi-fi. Inertia and indifference kill Blu-ray.

    • TOM RICHARDSON says:

      Totally agree with you on all points Gareth! Add to that the cost of Blu Ray discs vs DVDs and also the fact I have a visual impairment too means it’s wasted on me.

      • Gareth says:

        Thanks Tom – and Rob below for that primer.

        I think the low cost of BR players is a red herring personally. People can see from the supermarket shelves that DVDs are roughly a tenner and often £3+ once no longer newly released. And they can also see that Blu-rays are quite a lot more. An intuitive discounted cashflow let’s you know immediately that this would be an expensive format switch, against which you’ve got to ask yourself if you’ve ever watched a movie and wished there were fewer visible lines. Mass adoption and switchover is unlikely without compulsion and therefore our SDE pool of interest is likely to remain a subsection of a minority group.

    • paulg says:

      I am also in agreement with Gareth. I will buy a blu ray over a DVD if it’s available but I’m not as bothered as most of the commentators here if there isn’t an option. There is nothing wrong with the DVD standard for both picture and sound. Most players will upscale a DVD to 1080P anyway. Unless you have an extremely high end sound system you are unlikely to notice the difference between Dolby Digital or DTS and uncompressed blu ray sound formats anyway.

  30. The problem that Blu Ray faced was down to two main things. Firstly, it emerged victorious from the physical HD battle with HD-DVD only to find itself up against a rapidly increasing download culture. Why buy a disc when you can download HD content, legally or otherwise, far more conveniently.

    Secondly, Sony made Blu Ray and its licensing model incredibly restrictive. Unlike DVD, Blu Ray required a whole ton of licence conformity to work and Sony wanted their slice. Manufacturers were hesitant, and some were reluctant, to pay Sony for licensing. Most notably amongst these was Apple. Love them or hate them, they carry a lot of influence in the market and their refusal to support Blu Ray in any of their computers, explained by the now famous “bag of hurt” comment from the late Steve Jobs was a big blow to its adoption. iTunes has been supporting HD content for some while now.

    Blu Ray is undoubtedly better than DVD in every single way, but the licensing hoops that providers face were far too stringent and restrictive. Add to that the competition from HD streaming and downloads and the fact that when it comes to audio only content, a lossless DVD-A or SACD is just as good as a Blu Ray encoded in DTS or DD HD formats, Blu Ray had little or no redeeming features.

    I don’t subscribe to the theory that people are reluctant to upgrade from DVD. You can buy a Blu Ray player for as little as £30 these days, and that same deck will support all the DVD discs you have. The cost of shifting from DVD to Blu Ray is, at worst, negligible.

    No, it is more about the way consumers want to consume. When DVD launched, it had no competition from downloads or streaming. If you wanted the best, DVD was it. Today, if you want to watch a film in 2K or 4K, you can do that in iTunes or Netflix or whatever service you subscribe to. And you’ll get all the bonus features too! You do not NEED Blu Ray. As for audio content, Blu Ray only really offers lossless 5.1 over most other delivery formats. If you want hi-res stereo, there are, again, numerous ways to acquire that content. 5.1 audio is still a niche market.

    Blu Ray IS great for gaming, that is for sure. Sony’s PS4 is the biggest selling console platform of all time and Blu Ray is crucial to that, although downloads are giving it a run for its money.

    When an artist/label choose to use DVD for video content, I think it is an insult and clearly a cost cutting exercise. Bowie’s Glastonbury set was a notable release in recent months. I don’t know in what format the concert was filmed and if it was suitable for upscaling to 2K or 4K, but watching that gig, I was very much distracted by the poor image quality. And yet Bananarama managed to film and release their recent live release in glorious HD, put it on Blu Ray and at a superb price to boot!

    DVD needs to die, quickly and respectfully. The industry needs to force the consumer’s hand in this. I don’t think it will cause too many people too much trouble.

  31. Steve Long says:

    I can’t understand why artists don’t go with BluRay either. BluRay players are certainly affordable. I go for BluRay when it’s available. King Crimson’s last three releases used BluRay for video content that allowed the listener to operate as audio only without the need the TV to be on. Unfortunately their non boxset audio releases are issued on DVD Audio. Their boxsets contain both formats. When it comes to audio discs I’ll accept DVDA or SACD if BluRay isn’t available.

  32. Dan says:

    Seems like the record industry in general doesn’t put much focus on sound quality. HD downloads are astronomically priced and most mainstream music services don’t even offer a lossless option. You have to pay double at the ones that do. I can’t understand it.. the labels made a fortune selling deluxe digital albums all those years with (mostly) disposable bonus content as an excuse to get $2-$3 more per album. You’d think they’d do the same with better sound quality. HD movies aren’t double the price of the standard quality, so why is music priced that way?

  33. Tony says:

    I don’t think the gaming community would put up with paying for a game & not having the best quality sound and graphics available , I paid £35 for Forza Horizon 4 on Xbox (Beck Colors soundtrack sounding great on Forza), I’d be interested to know how many gamers are still buying hard copy against download , maybe because Xbox & PlayStation compete against each other, picture quality, sound and graphics are still a big selling point.
    I would choose BR over DVD every time, but if the choice isn’t there what do you do?

  34. Paul Scott says:

    Also, some folk (who are generally younger) may have a PS4 which handily is also a Blu-ray player. I use my son’s console for playing them

  35. Luc says:

    On my end, if a label isn’t willing to produce the best quality possible, then I am not willing to buy it. Unfortunate but reality in my book!

  36. Musicneil66 says:

    When we lay out a lot of our hard earned cash for the delux and SuperDeluxe box sets why can the video element be packaged with all formats 4k, blu ray and DVD. They do it with the music: vinyl, cd, download. The people buy these sets in the general are die hard fans and/music collectors who will have the kit to enjoy

  37. Andy C says:

    Not all Deluxe Editions with Blu-Rays get it right. The Pink Floyd Early Years box sets are a case in point, where the Blu-Ray videos are appalling. For starters a lot of the source material was shot at 25fps, but has been badly converted to 23.976fps for the Blu-Rays. Then there’s source material that was originally interlaced, but has been poorly deinterlaced and blown up to HD. You actually have a mere 288 lines of resolution blown up to 1080. Then the subtitles are missing from the French films – the excuse was licencing issues, but this is a poor excuse.

    But in the case of this Weller release, it would have been shot HD so there is little excuse really. If you are trying to sell something as a premium product, then it needs to be just that and have a Blu-Ray and not a DVD.

  38. Ian Mears says:

    Funnily enough I looked at blu-ray players this weekend after making a deliberate choice years ago to not buy into another format that ultimately seemed doomed to shortly be obsolete.
    My interest in it now is that by accident I now have quite a few within deluxe box sets (such as Concert for George (Harrison); the white album; Macca reissues) and I assumed blu ray players would now be cheap. I struggled to even find one in the big JB Hifi store I went to. The advice was to get a gaming console, but I’m not a gamer. Maybe they are obsolete?

    • Klaus says:

      @Ian Mears

      You made me curious with your comment so i checked the JB-website and found out that there are only 13 Blu-ray-players for sale there at the moment.
      Then i checked our local retailer Saturn’s-site and found 28 Blu-ray-players (standard and 3D added up) and 13 more Ultra-HD-Blu-ray-players, so i guess that either folks in Australia are not as much interested in Blu-ray-players than those in Continental Europe or that maybe it’s JB that’s becoming obsolete.
      I just got into Blu-Ray myself about a year ago and don’t want to miss it anymore and when it comes to physical product it certainly is currently the best mass-medium that is around.

  39. Otto says:

    DVD is an old medium. Blu-ray of blu-ray 4K should be the standard if the source material is available. Other formats could be added digitally for download but when I pay a premium price I expect a premium product. I won’t buy full price if it’s not the highest possible definition that is in the package.

  40. Bob Romano says:

    Frankly. If a package doesn’t have a Blu-ray when video is included I will not buy it. I will look for the audio on Tidal or Spotify and stream it. You include a Blu-ray and I’m going to be more inclined to plunk down some hard earned cash. I have a few Blu-rays from Eagle Rock that are SD but the sound is upgraded and it just looks better to me. Especially on a 65” screen.

  41. Mitchell says:

    Loved seeing Paul Weller 4 separate tours in San Francisco but his solo tour was probably the best. Days Of Speed reflects that concert and is still one of my faves.

  42. Minnesota Geoff says:

    Yeah, saw that 1997 Heavy Soul tour in October with
    Johnette Naplolitano from Concrete Blonde, opening!

  43. Kevin Shipton says:

    Who cares about the DVD. It will get played once by most people. It’s the vinyl that’s going to be used all the time. Great news for us a Weller fans who still play records. True Meanings is a brilliant album and this live release will be fantastic.

  44. Kristan Reed says:

    Nice of Weller to include the DVD (though Blu-Ray would have been infinitely preferable). The Bowie Glastonbury situation was a debacle where the vinyl didn’t have the DVD—despite being nearly three times the price. As a result, I’m now waiting for both to be heavily discounted before pulling the trigger. A complete false economy IMO.

  45. james vandegrift says:

    CANT WAIT!Try to see him every time he is in the states. Always full on live.

  46. Larry Davis says:

    I’ll buy this…his ‘True Meanings’ record was so good, as was ‘A Kind Revolution’, and i did catch Weller live once in NYC in 1997, supporting ‘Heavy Soul’…he rarely comes over to the States…ace gig, he is such a legend I would buy anything he puts out and see a gig when he comes over and the schedule works out…this release is as if I saw this show/tour for one of his best ever albums… Nice…the 2CD/DVD looks great value…

  47. Dan says:

    ‘White Horses’??

    Not a cover of this, by any chance –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_FrJ7hzSXI

    ;-)

  48. Adey says:

    £14.99 for a 2cd & dvd set is (very) good value compared to Bowie’s glastonbury release.
    Just pre-ordered the weller set, as well as specials encore cd and ian browns ripples. Its an exciting month or so for me!!!

    • Craig Fleming says:

      And from the same record company Adey! Where is the consistency? Perhaps Bowie’s estate and the BBC drove a harder bargain on the Glastonbury set.

  49. Alan Blevin says:

    I guess the no Bluray means that format isn’t selling well enough to make it worth doing.The previous 2 Weller live releases -Just A Dream and Find The Torch,Burn The Plans-have both been cd plus DVD only as well.At least this time we get the whole concert on cd rather than a highlights disc like on those two.
    Glad to get this regardless of film format.Weller is a legend.

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      I honestly think that record labels think most punters aren’t really bothered whether its blu-ray or not. The only reason not to release this on blu-ray is to save money in the whole authoring/production process. That’s the only ‘advantage’ I can see to not author on blu-ray. Weller himself clearly doesn’t care, otherwise he might have insisted on it.

      • Klaus says:

        There is one other reason i can think of:

        You can play DVDs on Blu-ray-players but you can’t play Blu-rays on DVD-players.

        • Paul Sinclair says:

          This is true.

        • Trash says:

          “There is one other reason i can think of:

          You can play DVDs on Blu-ray-players but you can’t play Blu-rays on DVD-players.”

          This is indeed the main reason. It saves them so much effort when it comes to packaging and trying to predict sales – they don’t have to try and guess how many Blu-ray packages to produce versus DVD packages. Far simpler to just produce DVDs which cater for everyone.

      • Boy About Town says:

        For the technically ignorant like my good self can you play blu ray discs on an ordinary old fashioned DVD player?

  50. SimonF says:

    Well done to Weller for including a DVD with the vinyl version. So many albums/artists don’t do this and it’a really annoying especially considering the price of vinyl these days.

  51. Mark Hubble says:

    I was fortunate to be at this gig
    I’ve seen The Jam, The Style Council & Weller solo many many times
    This was the best – the very best & unique in that the orchestra added something new to some old favourites
    This is not the recent Sky Arts programme – it’s the entire concert without edit
    Personally I think £43 is too much for a live gig vinyl but the CD version with DVD is a no brainer at £14.99

  52. mike says:

    I admire all the people on this site who have hearing and vision good enough to hear and see any significant material difference between blu-ray and dvd!

    • Adam says:

      Wow! If you can’t tell the difference between DVD and blu ray, and you have a 1080p or better TV, I’d book an appointment at the opticians urgently!

    • Jarmo Keranen says:

      Thanks for your admiration. To my eyes difference between dvd and blu-ray is like difference between cloudy or sunny day. I haven’t bought any dvd after that when i saw the first blu-ray version of the same disc!

    • Daryl says:

      I totally agree with you. I have had laser surgery on my eyes in the past, and when I last went for a test in December, they told me I have better than 20/20 vision – yet to me, DVD and blu-ray is more or less indistinguishable. Certainly not different enough to bother shelling out more money for. I’ll always go for the cheapest option as that is more economical for me. If blu-ray becomes cheaper than DVD then I will switch to blu-ray :)

    • Pádraig Collins says:

      DVD was such a massive step up from VHS, but Blu-ray is really only a small step up from DVD. If you played me a disc at random I doubt I could tell if it was DVD or Blu-ray.

      • David M says:

        Not true. In terms of video resolution the steps are similar, but blu-ray audio is also far superior.

      • poptones says:

        Don’t really want to enter a lengthy debate about blu-ray vs dvd as it’s not the subject at hand but there is a pretty big difference for me. I guess it depends. Some just don’t care as long as the image is good enough (just like some are fine with an audio mp3 encoded 128 kbps). Obviously your audio-video equipment will play a huge role. I have an LG Oled UHD TV with an Oppo blu-ray player and a pretty good Denon AV 7.2 UHD receiver (with Dolby Atmos), Ibought all tgat equipment last year and there’s a big difference between DVD and blu-ray for me. I have to admit I’m not sure buying 4K blu-rays is worth it at this point but I will always buy the BR vs DVD when possible. That said, people stream content on their phones, tablets, etc. so I’m not sure people really care about top-notch quality and are ready to pay for it. About music, very few artists release live shows on blu-ray so I understand Paul Weller and his label not bothering to release a blu-ray version. For what it’s worth, I’ve often seen Rolling Stones blu-ray on sale the past year. Only last week, there were hundred of copies of Havana Moon blu-rays on sale half price at Fnac stores in Paris.

        Overall I think the market’s changing a lot for video content. Wether it’s DVD, standard HD BR or UHD BR, the ship’s sinking with Netflix, Amazon Prime and Youtube. Thait said, as REM, INXS, Peter Gabriel and others showed, a BR version adds value to a box-set but I guess Paul Weller and his label think most of his fans don’t really care about blu-ray and it’s only a niche for wealthy people. That’s why you’ll find a lot of classical, opera and ballet blu-rays in stores but very few pop/rock blu-rays.

        • Klaus says:

          Imho the biggest advantage of a Blu-Ray over a DVD is not the better visual quality but the higher capability of storage space that makes it possibly to include better and more audio formats than before.
          The Blu-ray of e.g. Where We Stood by The Pineapple Thief (for those who don’t know them yet they’re currently one of the best and most popular progressive rock bands around) does not only include the whole content of the cd+dvd-version of this live album but also the audio of the studio album plus bonus disc the band released before, all of those in stereo and in 5.1, an additional otherwise so far unavailable album of acoustic song versions, several video clips plus more, all on just one disc.
          Or look up what’s included on the Blu-rays coming with the XTC-re-releases.

  53. Dann says:

    any idea what format the dvd will be? All regions I hope.

  54. Robert says:

    I am suprised that there isn’t a CD & Blu-ray package. I hope that they change their mind. I would be interested in buying this, because his last album was great.

  55. James Sanders says:

    Any news if the re-release of the back catalogue on vinyl is continuing? I think Heliocentric is next up….

  56. Michael says:

    Paul Weller’s “True Meanings” is possibly my top favorite new album release of 2018. Hearing many of the songs from that album recorded live on stage with an accompanying orchestra is intriguing.

    Although it’s not Blu-ray, does the DVD that’s included with “Other Aspects” offer 5.1 surround sound playback?

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      I’d say no, because it hasn’t been mentioned anywhere.

      • poptones says:

        Really? It would be a shame if that’s the case and there’s only PCM stereo.

        Considering there will be special cinema screenings to promote the release, I would be surprised if there’s no 5.1 Dolby Digital or DTS on the DVD. For what it’s worth, his Royal Albert Hall show released as a CD/DVD in 2000 contained both DD 5.1 and DTS sourround sound. So a release without either of those formats in 2019 would be an epic failure for me. I certainly wouldn’t buy this release if there’s no surround sound. A simple download or stream is enough if it’s only stereo. I don’t expect DTS-HD or Dolby True HD (you usually find those formats on blu-ray) but I ecpe t regular DTS and DD 5.1.

        About DTS-HD Master Audio, I have Peter Gabriel’s New Blood blu-ray and it’s fantastic. I love the experience and the sound. It’s PG and the New Blood Orchestra so if Paul Weller followed Peter Gabriel’s blueprint, the show must be awesome. I wonder why people complain when they see the word “Orchestra” (nothing to do with all the so called symphonic shows so many artists resort to). Outside of Peter Gabriel, I’ve seen many artists play with a full orchestra (Tindersticks or Sigur Ros for example) and it’s usually a great audio-visual experience.

    • Paul B says:

      PCM stereo and DTS 5.1

  57. Pete A says:

    Can’t believe another release restricted to the now antiquated DVD format. As a result another one on my list of purchases that will now need to be deleted. Very disappointed indeed, should have been UHD nevermind HD!!

  58. poptones says:

    Excellent. I’ve seen Paul Weller play live on numerous occasions over the years and he’s a great performer. He’s touring a lot so he could make much more money playing mainly Jam and Style Council songs but he usually plays 80 and sometimes 90% of his own songs and mostly his latest album. I like that. As I couldn’t attend one of his shows last year I will definitely buy the 3LP/DVD set. As some mentioned, I wish he offered a blu-ray version in some kind of Super Deluxe Edition with everything (3LP, 2CD + Blu-Ray and Tour book).

  59. BritinDetroit says:

    I don’t know what is more grinding – the never ending flow of Old Dude or Dudette Sings the Classics/Standards or old Fogies with an Orchestra, cue Pete and Rog and the forthcoming tour.
    Pass
    Old guy getting cranky in Detroit

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      But this isn’t ‘old guy sings the classics/standards’… half the set is his very good, brand new album. Weller is many things, but he’s not Rod Stewart doing the American Songbook.

      • BritinDetroit says:

        Paul
        I wasn’t going for the crossover of Old Dude singing classics with an orchestra, I was generally expressing my dismay at the never ending flow of both Standards and Orchestra albums
        I loved Tales from the Riverbank but don’t want to hear it in a Symphonic format. Jam SDE Boxsets ? You betcha, cant buy enough
        I have battled through so many incarnations of the Who but wont be going to the LCA for Pete and Rog and the Orchestra.
        And as for the standards….well maybe Tales from the Riverbank is a standard, even without Sinatra and Dylan and shouldn’t be set to orchestra
        Oh well, did like Nilsson a lot

      • e.s. says:

        Yeah, comparing Paul Weller’s two nights at the Royal Festival Hall – an artist who has generated more albums of new material as a solo act than many put out over their entire careers – to a band that hasn’t put out a new album in over a decade is a bit silly. Nearly half of the songs are from the very recent A Kind Revolution (2017), or True Meanings (2018). Only five are songs originally performed by The Jam or The Style Council. More impressively, only one is from Stanley Road. Beyond the choice of material, though, performing with an orchestra is considerably more of a challenge than simply doing another show with a road-tested band, so this is hardly a case of Weller resting on his laurels.

  60. graeme ewan says:

    no blu ray- no buy

  61. Dave H says:

    Seems to be a current trend to release concerts on DVD and not Blu-ray, Coldplay and now Paul Weller. Worse still. I bet they were recorded with HD cameras and the audio will be compressed on DVD.
    One step forward, two steps back!

  62. Rodolfo Martin says:

    I WANT MY BLU-RAY!

  63. Rashers says:

    Why is there no blu-ray version of this? Generally the audio on DVDs is only 16 bit Dolby Digital (compressed) versus a high resolution audio track on blu-ray. Third rate visuals (UHD BR is the current standard) and third rate audio (after 24 bit and CD) otherwise.
    Much as I love vinyl – the sound quality and the visuals on a Blu-Ray (e.g. Steven Wilson) is a much better home concert experience.
    This (I presume it was this concert) was screened on TV in October in high resolution, by the way.

    • Ian says:

      I agree with your comments Rashers – if it’s being filmed in hd then release it in this quality, otherwise we all may be going back to cassettes as the company / artist will think there is a retro cool aspect, they can sell to their customers / fanbase.
      Which just happens to incur cheaper production costs. I presently have a Coral & Paul Heaton cassette of their last album , which was sold as part of bundle. The only time I will ever play them is when I’ve lost my marbles!

      • Alan B says:

        Yes it’s infuriating that a number of artists have gone down the route of fobbing cassettes on to fans via bundles. Bundles that include tasty items such as signed copies or prints that you can only get if you buy that bundle. The new 1975 album was a case in point. They offered a signed art card but it was only available via a bundle that included a cassette. If demand for tapes is so good why do they go down that route? I’ve always hated tapes. Remember that ridiculous Chart rule years ago when a single had to be released in tape form to be eligible for the Singles Chart?

        • Paul Sinclair says:

          There were many ridiculous chart rules, particularly the 20 minute rule for CD singles, which meant we got weird edits of full-length remixes sometimes, for space reasons. Meanwhile in the USA they got 9-track mega ‘maxi-singles’. Prince’s Gett Off and Cream being an obvious example of this imbalance.

  64. unique says:

    vinyl but no bluray? worlds gone mad!

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