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Pretenders / multi-disc deluxe reissues and limited box set

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The eight Pretenders albums released by Warner Bros. in the twenty years between 1979 and 1999 are to be reissued by Edsel Records as deluxe 2CD+DVD digipaks in February next year.

The albums in question are Pretenders, Pretenders II, Learning To Crawl, Get Close, Packed!, Last of the Independents, Isle of View and Viva El Amor! and the three-disc sets (two are CD+DVD) will be available individually or together packaged in a smart 22-disc box set.

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First 500 boxes ordered from official store come with a personalised poster

These will boast an enormous amount of bonus material (full track listings below) including b-sides, live tracks, remixes, songs for soundtracks, demos and alternate versions. Across all the DVDs alone you will find 30 rare BBC TV appearances, 21 promo videos and the full 18-track Isle of View performance.

Both box and individual releases will be available from the usual places, but if you choose to purchase the box set from the Official Pretenders Store, the first 500 ordered get a free A3 Lyric poster of Brass In Pocket with their name on it.  

The Pretenders reissues and box set will be released on 16 February 2015


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Track listings / Pre-order links

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Pretenders (1979)

CD 1

  • 1. Precious
  • 2. The Phone Call
  • 3. Up The Neck
  • 4. Tattooed Love Boys
  • 5. Space Invader
  • 6. The Wait
  • 7. Stop Your Sobbing
  • 8. Kid
  • 9. Private Life
  • 10. Brass In Pocket
  • 11. Lovers of Today
  • 12. Mystery Achievement

B-SIDES

  • 13. Swinging London
  • 14. Nervous But Shy
  • 15. Cuban Slide
  • 16. Porcelain
  • 17. Precious [live]
  • 18. Kid [1987 extended remix]

CD 2

DEMOS

  • 1. The Phone Call [late 1977]
  • 2. Brass In Pocket [February 1978]
  • 3. Precious [April 1978]
  • 4. The Wait [April 1978]
  • 5. Stop Your Sobbing [April 1978]
  • 6. I Can’t Control Myself [April 1978]
  • 7. Tequila [April 1978]
  • 8. Kid [December 1978]

LIVE

  • 9. Sabre Dance [The Marquee, April 1979]
  • 10. I Need Somebody [The Kid Jensen Show, July 1979]
  • 11. Mystery Achievement [The Kid Jensen Show, July 1979]
  • 12. Precious [The Paradise Theatre, March 1980]
  • 13. Tattooed Love Boys [The Paradise Theatre, March 1980]

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. Stop Your Sobbing
  • 2. Kid
  • 3. Brass In Pocket

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. Stop Your Sobbing [TOTP, February 1979]
  • 2. Kid [TOTP, July 1979]
  • 3. Brass In Pocket [TOTP, November 1979]
  • 4. Brass In Pocket [TOTP, December 1979]
  • 5. Kid [Swap Shop, December 1979]
  • 6. Brass In Pocket [TOTP, January 1980]

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Pretenders II (1981)

CD 1

  • 1. The Adultress
  • 2. Bad Boys Get Spanked
  • 3. Message Of Love
  • 4. I Go To Sleep
  • 5. Birds Of Paradise
  • 6. Talk Of The Town
  • 7. Pack It Up
  • 8. Waste Not Want Not
  • 9. Day After Day
  • 10. Jealous Dogs
  • 11. The English Roses
  • 12. Louie Louie

CD 2

BONUS TRACKS

  • 1. Talk Of The Town [demo]
  • 2. I Go To Sleep [guitar version]
  • 3. Pack It Up [radio mix]
  • 4. In The Sticks
  • 5. What You Gonna Do About It

PRETENDERS LIVE AT THE SANTA MONICA CIVIC, 1981

  • 6. The Wait
  • 7. The Adultress
  • 8. Message Of Love
  • 9. Louie Louie
  • 10. Talk Of The Town
  • 11. Birds Of Paradise
  • 12. The English Roses
  • 13. Up The Neck
  • 14. Bad Boys Get Spanked
  • 15. Stop Your Sobbing
  • 16. Private Life
  • 17. Kid
  • 18. Day After Day
  • 19. Brass In Pocket
  • 20. Higher And Higher

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. Talk Of The Town
  • 2. Message Of Love
  • 3. Day After Day
  • 4. I Go To Sleep

BBC TV PERFORMANCES

  • 1. Message Of Love [TOTP, February 1981]
  • 2. I Go To Sleep [TOTP, November 1981]

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Learning To Crawl (1984)

CD 1

  • 1. Middle Of The Road
  • 2. Back On The Chain Gang
  • 3. Time The Avenger
  • 4. Watching The Clothes
  • 5. Show Me
  • 6. Thumbelina
  • 7. My City Was Gone
  • 8. Thin Line Between Love And Hate
  • 9. I Hurt You
  • 10. 2000 Miles

CD 2

B-SIDES / LIVE

  • 1. Fast Or Slow (The Law’s the Law)
  • 2. Money [live]
  • 3. Time The Avenger [live]
  • 4. Bad Boys Get Spanked [live]
  • 5. My City Was Gone [live]
  • 6. Tequila

DEMOS

  • 7. I Hurt You [August 1982]
  • 8. When I Change My Life [August 1982]
  • 9. Ramblin’ Rob [August 1982]
  • 10. Watching The Clothes [August 1982]

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. Back On The Chain Gang
  • 2. 2000 Miles
  • 3. Middle Of The Road
  • 4. Show Me
  • 5. Thin Line Between Love and Hate

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. 2000 Miles – rehearsal and interview [Breakfast Time, December 1983]
  • 2. 2000 Miles [TOTP, December 1983]

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Get Close (1986)

CD 1

  • 1. My Baby
  • 2. When I Change My Life
  • 3. Light Of The Moon
  • 4. Dance!
  • 5. Tradition Of Love
  • 6. Don’t Get Me Wrong
  • 7. I Remember You
  • 8. How Much Did You Get For Your Soul?
  • 9. Chill Factor
  • 10. Hymn To Her
  • 11. Room Full Of Mirrors

CD 2

B-SIDES

  • 1. Dance! [full length version]
  • 2. Room Full Of Mirrors [extended version]
  • 3. Tradition Of Love [extended remix]
  • 4. Thumbelina [live]
  • 5. Middle Of The Road [live]
  • 6. Private Life [live]

BONUS TRACKS

  • 7. Dance [take 1]
  • 8. Don’t Get Me Wrong [live in Austin, 1987]
  • 9. Hold A Candle To This [alternate version]
  • 10. Worlds Within Worlds
  • 11. When I Change My Life [alternate version]
  • 12. Reconsider Me [monitor mix]

SONGS FOR SOUNDTRACKS…PLUS

  • 13. Where Has Everybody Gone [from “The Living Daylights”]
  • 14. If There Was A Man [from “The Living Daylights”]
  • 15. Windows Of The World [from “1969”]
  • 16. Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. Don’t Get Me Wrong
  • 2. Hymn To Her
  • 3. My Baby

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. Don’t Get Me Wrong [Wogan, October 1986]
  • 2. Don’t Get Me Wrong [TOTP, October 1986]

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Packed! (1990)

CD

  • 1. Never Do That
  • 2. Let’s Make A Pact
  • 3. Millionaires
  • 4. May This Be Love
  • 5. No Guarantee
  • 6. When Will I See You?
  • 7. Sense Of Purpose
  • 8. Downtown (Akron)
  • 9. How Do I Miss You?
  • 10. Hold A Candle To This
  • 11. Criminal

B-SIDES

  • 12. Not A Second Time
  • 13. Spirit Of Life

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. Never Do That
  • 2. Sense Of Purpose

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. Never Do That [Wogan, June 1990]
  • 2. Millionaires [The Late Show, June 1990]
  • 3. Criminal [The Late Show, June 1990]

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Last of the Independents (1994)

CD 1

  • 1. Hollywood Perfume
  • 2. Night In My Veins
  • 3. Money Talk
  • 4. 977
  • 5. Revolution
  • 6. All My Dreams
  • 7. I’ll Stand By You
  • 8. I’m A Mother
  • 9. Tequila
  • 10. Every Mother’s Son
  • 11. Rebel Rock Me
  • 12. Love Colours
  • 13. Forever Young

CD 2

B-SIDES…PLUS

  • 1. Angel Of The Morning [from “Friends”]
  • 2. Bold As Love
  • 3. Hollywood Perfume [live]
  • 4. Kid [live]
  • 5. I’ll Stand By You [live]
  • 6. Back On The Chain Gang [live]
  • 7. Night In My Veins [live]
  • 8. Precious [live]

BONUS TRACKS

  • 9. Angel Of The Morning [original version]
  • 10. Every Mother’s Son [demo]

SONGS FOR SOUNDTRACKS

  • 11. I’m Not In Love [from “Indecent Proposal”]
  • 12. Every Day Is Like Sunday [from “Boys On The Side”]

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. I’ll Stand By You
  • 2. Night In My Veins

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. I’ll Stand By You [TOTP, April 1994]
  • 2. Night In My Veins [Later, May 1994]
  • 3. 977 [Later, May 1994]
  • 4. Hollywood Perfume [Later, May 1994]
  • 5. Night In My Veins [TOTP, July 1994]
  • 6. Don’t Get Me Wrong [Danny Baker Show, October 1994]
  • 7. 977 [Danny Baker Show, October 1994]

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The Isle of View (1995)

CD

  • 1. Sense Of Purpose
  • 2. Chill Factor
  • 3. Private Life
  • 4. Back On The Chain Gang
  • 5. Kid
  • 6. I Hurt You
  • 7. Criminal
  • 8. Brass In Pocket
  • 9. 2000 Miles
  • 10. Hymn To Her
  • 11. Lovers Of Today
  • 12. The Phone Call
  • 13. I Go To Sleep
  • 14. Revolution
  • 15. The Isle Of View

B-SIDES

  • 16. Creep
  • 17. Happy Christmas
  • 18. Night In My Veins
  • 19. Tequila

DVD

  • 1. Sense Of Purpose
  • 2. Chill Factor
  • 3. I Hurt You
  • 4. Back On The Chain Gang
  • 5. Thumbelina
  • 6. Kid
  • 7. Private Life
  • 8. Creep
  • 9. Criminal
  • 10. Brass In Pocket
  • 11. 2000 Miles
  • 12. Hymn To Her
  • 13. Blue Sun
  • 14. Lovers Of Today
  • 15. The Phone Call
  • 16. I Go To Sleep
  • 17. Revolution
  • 18. Night In My Veins

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. Kid [TOTP, September 1995]
  • 2. Criminal [Pebble Mill, November 1995]
  • 3. 2000 Miles [Pebble Mill, November 1995]

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Viva El Amor! (1999)

CD 1

  • 1. Popstar
  • 2. Human
  • 3. From The Heart Down
  • 4. Nails In The Road
  • 5. Who’s Who
  • 6. Dragway 42
  • 7. Baby’s Breath
  • 8. One More Time
  • 9. Legalise Me
  • 10. Samurai
  • 11. Rabo De Nube
  • 12. Biker

CD 2

B-SIDES

  • 1. The Homecoming [Street Version]
  • 2. Human [Class Mix]
  • 3. The Needle And The Damage Done
  • 4. Samurai [Street Mix]

BONUS TRACKS

  • 5. Back Down
  • 6. California
  • 7. From The Heart Down [alternate version]

SONGS FOR SOUNDTRACKS

  • 8. Goin’ Back [from “Fever Pitch”]
  • 9. Goodbye [from “G.I. Jane”]
  • 10. The Homecoming [from “G.I. Jane”]

DVD

PROMO VIDEOS

  • 1. Human
  • 2. Popstar

BBC TV APPEARANCES

  • 1. From The Heart Down [Later, May 1999]
  • 2. Human [Later, May 1999]
  • 3. Talk Of The Town [Songwriters’ Circle, July 1999]
  • 4. Kid [Songwriters’ Circle, July 1999]
  • 5. Back On The Chain Gang [Songwriters’ Circle, July 1999]

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71 responses to Pretenders / multi-disc deluxe reissues and limited box set

  1. Galley says:

    I would be all over this if the price was right, and the CDs weren’t brickwalled

  2. Nigel Hall says:

    Shame they’re not planning to include both versions of Talk of the
    Town on Pretenders II – I’m pretty sure the single version was a different mix from the original album version.

    • John Sayers says:

      Same mix and take, the album version is a bit shorter, the single version is longer on the fade out. Usually it’s the other way around!

  3. John says:

    No video for “Tattooed Love Boys” on the first set? Why does that video always get passed by? Does Chrissie not like it? Are the masters destroyed?

    • simonP says:

      Who needs masters when you can digitise a knackered old VHS copy like they did with the last TFF release?

      • Paul Sinclair says:

        “they” didn’t do that.

        • Mike the Fish says:

          I reckon for the era, and with the digi effects it would be a Umatic master, which is lower than best SD quality, so there’s not a lot that can be done with that if that’s the case. It’s a limitation of the storage media of the time.

  4. Greg says:

    Is there any way someone in the US (me) can get the set from the Pretender’s Store? I checked the country options and we seem to be exclude.

  5. billy3010 says:

    I could be wrong, but i’m almost sure that the cassette, that came with the UK 7″ of Don’t get me wrong included a remix/extended version of the song – i’ve definitely heard one and i’m sure it was from that release??

    • Peter MuZyck says:

      I think you probably are incorrect. It was the B-Side” Dance” was an extended mix of the version on the LP. To confuse matters, the CD included that same “full length version”.

  6. Ken07 says:

    Any details on remastering?

  7. omar says:

    Hurray for Chrissie. A last we get a remastered Last Of The Independents !

    • Carlos says:

      More over, we’ll also have a remastered versión of “the isle of view” adding the b sides!. It’s a shame that we won’t be able to purchase the box from USA, it is quite difficult for southamericans to purchase from amazon.co.uk. Anyway, I won’t stand the chance to get this breakthrough box set

  8. Philip Cohen says:

    Unfortunately, the “My Play” Pretenders Store won’t sell to people in the U.S.A. /The music biz executives should be happy that there are still people who want to buy “physical product” instead of erecting barriers such as this.

    Still, I Do intend to buy the individual titles from Amazon.co.uk

    • Peter MuZyck says:

      Suspect this is all due to contractual wrangling and not an intentional snub of US buyers. Blame the lawyers, not the music biz executives.

  9. Ben Mills says:

    Argh!
    I am a huge fan, and got to see their original lineup when they opened for the Kinks in ’81 (or was it ’82?). At that show, the Pretenders mgmt. and the promoter couldn’t come to terms on shirt sales, so I was crushed not to get a Pretenders shirt, and settled from a crummy Kinks shirt.

    Their first two albums tower over their others, but still the box would have been great to get. But I am in Colorado and so it is a no go.

    Once again, a major disappointment delivered at the hands of those who manage the Pretenders…………..

  10. David says:

    Excellent news, even though there are lots of tracks missing here, especially those originally released on tribute discs. But I’m grateful to see that “Blue Sun,” previously available only on laserdisc, will be included on this version of “Isle Of View.”

  11. CJ Feeney says:

    My original comment is awaiting moderation, so.here it is withiut the URL.

    You could try Spin CDs (uk independent retailer) and see if they ship the box to the USA

    Google “Spin CDs Pretenders box UK” and that should get you there.

    You won’t get the poster though.

  12. Francis says:

    One word for all the Pretenders Deluxe Editions – BRILLIANT !

  13. Francis says:

    The Official Pretenders Store website link does not open!

  14. Lanny Justice says:

    Paul, will you please pass this along to Edsel? We LOVE them!!! They set the standard for their deluxe reissues.

  15. Todd R. says:

    Thrilled to see this coming out – and as disappointed as I am to have yet ANOTHER set or reissues come out – this does seem darn cool.
    TR

  16. Richard says:

    a waste .. 90% of these songs, demo’s and live cuts ARE ALREADY RELEASED on Rhino’s amazing 4 MINI LP’s all with the same tracks only in different order ..

    • Carlos says:

      The Matter is that Rhino’s sound quality is rather por. I suppose these masters will be much higher, or else i’d feel rather dissappointed too. Anyway, we will get together a lot of treasures at Last of the independents and The Isle of View. However, i’m considering purchasing the set individually after having read your post.

  17. Philip Cohen says:

    Notably absent: the song “1969”, which appeared on the UK 3″ CD single of “Windows of The World”. Most copies of the CD single rotted, due to Philips-DuPont Optical’s decision to use silver as a reflective material(versus the usual Aluminium/Aluminum), and the pressing plant not properly sealing the discs’ edges. As a pressing plant spokesman later said, “As any housewife will tell you, silver tarnishes.”.

    After my original CD single became unplayable, I visited the UK, and went to the specific shop from which I had mail ordered the disc(“Adrians” in Wickford). I tried the 3 remaining copies of the disc. Only one was playable. I bought it. All these years later, though the label side has become badly discolored, the disc still plays, but I wasn’t taking any chances. Within weeks of getting back to the U.S.A., I made a CD-R clone of it.

    Oddly enough, “1969” was not included on the film soundtrack album of the same name.

    • Gary Maiullo says:

      Wow. I still have my copy of that 3″ CD Single, and it still plays. But I didn’t realize it’s in jeopardy, I’ll be sure to burn a copy of it. Thx!

  18. Steven says:

    Intriguing story of a CD single, Philip. Your comments are always worth a quick read. Thanks. :)

  19. Eddie says:

    Is everything from the previously expanded re-issues on these?

  20. Mick says:

    I, too am concerned about possible remastering brickwalling. …And am very miffed that a music business that does nothing but cry poverty will not sell in the U.S.
    That said – there’s always importing ($hudder), but does enyone know if these are all-region DVD’s that will play on R1 DVD players?

  21. Ross says:

    A great set of reissues. Who compiled them though? As already mentioned, 1969 is missing. So many hard to find tracks are included, its a shame that that one is absent – a rights issue maybe? But what’s really frustrating is having Cuban Slide and Porcelain as bonus tracks on the debut album. They are outtakes from Pretenders II. But I can overlook that as these really are good, and long overdue for a band as good as the Pretenders.

  22. Kevin says:

    I just hope they don’t resort to the compression and limiting they used on the 2006 reissue.

  23. Jay says:

    Fantastic looking set- can’t wait – and as someone else said, Denon do expanded’s much better than others….
    Questions : Are these remastered? Doesn’t mention mastering on the sleeves? – and there are a couple of omissions that really need to be addressed : Talk Of The Town – the 7″ version must be included, and ‘1969’ also should

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  25. Ross says:

    The debut album is also missing the single version of The Wait, from the flip of Stop Your Sobbing. A minor quibble, but a shame its not on there. Perhaps these are not definitive track listings yet?

  26. Andrea says:

    As stated by previous comments, the news we really need to read is about the remastering.
    Edsel is known to mess it up big time lately, most famously on the Robert Palmer reissue series. Universal handed them Palmer’s legacy on CDs, and Edsel released it without even realizing is was heavily compressed 16-bit mastering.
    Now heaven knows how long we’ll have to wait before Palmer’s legacy finally gets justice.

    So if SDE can shed some light on the remastering of this set, I guess that’s what we’re all eager to read. Thanks!

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  28. Simon Benson says:

    Wil these be the same remastered versions that were released in 2006 by Rhino?

  29. Eric says:

    The pre-order price has dropped more than 35 quid to £74 on amazon UK, although I expect it will rise and fall several times between now and Feb 16th, so might be worth pre-ordering now.

  30. Scott says:

    Where is the full length ‘Talk of the Town’? The LP version is very short in comparison to the superior single version, which I don’t see listed. And I too am curious if these have been remastered, even though I’m only interested in the first 2 albums.

  31. Andrea says:

    Paul,
    we still need info about the remastering! That’s *THE* thing we need to know… The thingamajig that will make the difference between buying it /not buying it (for me and I’m pretty sure for many fans who bought the – excellent – remastered and expanded Rhino reissues).
    Thanks for any light you can shed!

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      Edsel use Phil Kinrade at Alchemy a lot. So if you like what you’ve heard from other reissues (e.g. Deacon Blue) then you’ll have some idea.

      • Andrea says:

        Well that’s not necessarily true… They also *don’t* use Phil Kinrade at Alchemy, a lot.
        They also released pre-mastered CDs from a licensing label without even knowing what was in them…

        So rather than “who’s done it”, it’s important to have positive information about the source which was used, the remastering bit rate etc.
        Thanks for any info you can obtain!

        • Paul Sinclair says:

          You asked me to try and “shed some light on the remastering” and I’ve told you who is quite likely to have done it and you seem to want to have an argument about it. Funnily enough I’m not that inclined to go out of my way to find out something for people who are rude. They DO use Phil Kinrade a lot – he’s all over many many Edsel reissues, so I’m not sure what the point of your argument/discussion is. Yes, we know they’ve dropped the ball in the past – I’ve written a lot about that. If you don’t want to ‘risk’ £11 on a 2CD+DVD reissue that might not be perfectly remastered to you liking, that’s up to you.

  32. Andrea says:

    Sorry, I didn’t ment to be rude, at all. English is not may first language, not even my second at that, so maybe I expressed myself badly.

    I just asked some info about the remastering, and forgive me if I think that Phil Kinrade remastering Deacon Blue or other projects doesn’t mean he has remastered this one; as you said Edsel has notoriously dropped the ball in the past.

    So if information about remastering is unavailbable the moment, let’s just leave it at that…
    Thanks for you time!

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      I don’t *know* who is remastering the Pretenders but I was taking an educated guess based on the fact Phil Kinrade has worked on – amongst others – Deacon Blue, Everything But The Girl, Aztec Camera, Belinda Carlisle, Lisa Stansfield, Robert Palmer and loads more for Edsel.

      You said “They also don’t use Phil Kinrade at Alchemy, a lot” – which means you must know more about it than me, so don’t bother asking me anything again please.

  33. Andrea says:

    Thanks for your kind answer.
    Of the reissues you mention, the only one I’m familiar with is Robert Palmer, and I’m quite positive they didn’t use Phil Kinrade on that one.
    The reissue credits state “mastering at Universal” (or something of the kind, I don’t have it with me now), and Edsel executives have been reported saying that they were given already mastered CDs from Universal, so they (Edsel) had no idea about who remastered and from source and which bit rate.
    Just saying…

  34. John says:

    Hi..
    any news about the remastering if any? release date is approaching…

  35. Andrea says:

    I’ve just come across the Everything But The Girle reissues, and guess what, they’re not remastered by Phil Kinrade either.
    So I guess they DO not use Phil Kinrade a lot, at Edsel :-)
    cheers

    PS any update about the mastering of the Pretenders reissues?

    • Eric says:

      Andrea, is that your 2-star review on amazon? Shame they keep making these mistakes, and allowing sub-standard product through whateve “quality control” they have.

  36. Andrea says:

    Well I never!… It IS Phil Kinrade at Alchemy after all… :-)
    and what a tinny sounding mess he has done

  37. BRENEZ Alain says:

    Just received my box set today from myplay.com.
    For those complaining about their lack of service, I received the confirmation e-mail last Thursday that it had been shipped and it actually arrived on Friday !!! I only received it today as I wasn’t home on Friday.
    I haven’t listened to anything yet but overall presentation looks very good.
    And yes Paul Sinclair’s name is on the poster !

  38. John says:

    I haven’t received my box set in the States yet ($99.92 USD incl. shipping) but I hope it doesn’t arrive with a case of the Laupers.

  39. Bertielego says:

    I have received my boxset (and poster) on Friday 13th too.

    Excellent packaging work! Note that the final design differs from the computer images posted at the top of this article. All digipaks have the same spine design now (black and white) for the better.

    Mastering is done by Phil Kinrade, according to the booklets. The few tracks I have listed too sound great.

    PS: I have already listed all 8x sets in Discogs!

  40. Phil Cohen says:

    But, the one review that has been posted on Amazon.co.uk says that there are many left channel audio drop-outs on the “Isle of View” DVD. Fortunately, I’ve got the original U.S.A. Rhino DVD, and the sound is fine.

    But, if I were buying the “Isle of View” video program for the first time via the Edsel 2-disc set or the Edsel boxed set, I would be outraged. If the reports of problems with Edsel’s DVD are correct, they should supply a replacement disc to consumers.

    To read reports of disappointing mastering and a defective DVD immediately after Amazon.co.uk shipped the boxed set to me, is heartbreaking. I’ve just spent $126 to buy a product released by a reissue label that doesn’t give a damn about quality control. The boxed set may end up being a worthless paperweight. Part of the blame resides with Warner Music, who licensed the recordings to Edsel.

    I’m left wondering(after 31 years of CD collecting) whether I should even continue buying CD’s at all, when there’s infinite amounts of music available for free on the internet. And it’s not the only time recently that I’ve been burnt by record label carelessness. Shortly after Amazon.co.uk shipped Universal Music’s two recent deluxe CD+DVD Rick Wakeman reissues to me, I read a review on Amazon.co.uk claiming that the quadraphonic mix included on “King Arthur & the Knights of the Round Table” has been dubbed from vinyl with no de-clicking, and that run-out groove noise is audible. Those two sets are a week overdue to arrive. Now I don’t care if they get lost in the mail.

    I’m one of the minority of music consumers who still want to buy physical product, and the industry treats us like this. Sad.

  41. Sal says:

    I’ve just compared a few tracks from the debut album from the last remasters and the new box set.

    I have to agree with Andrea that they do sound a bit thin.

    If you don’t have anything to compare the box set with, you’d probably say what a clean sound to the new remasters, the guitar intro to Brass In Pockets for instance sounds fresh and clean. The down side to this approach is there is a lack of bass to drive the songs along.

    Some of the new The Jam remasters have the same thin sound so I’m not sure if this is now being seen as the norm.

    If you like your remasters sounding bright and thin, you’ll like this box. If you want a bit more ummph and bass and low end, stick with the previous remaster.

  42. Francis Wolf says:

    The sound is not a problem to me, an improvement on the originals, i don’t have the other remasters to compare. A lovely comprehensive box. My biggest gripe is that Edsel have used those horrible unwieldy plastic and thin-card style digipaks. Such a shame and unexpected given the lovely feel of quality in the ‘hardback book’ format of their ‘Everything but the girl’ and ‘Deacon Blue’ re-issues.

  43. Andrea says:

    Not sure if this is actually is an improvement on the first CD edition. Personally I don’t think so… but music, more than anything else, is a matter of taste. This box certainly sounds bright and compressed.

    I’m not very keen on digipacks either, I agree the EBTG reissue format would have been nicer.

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  45. Phil says:

    I have noticed the same problem with the audio on the “Isle Of View” dvd so wrote to Edsel. This was the reply I received:

    “Thanks for your email.

    We’ve asked our authoring house to investigate these issues on the DVD. The audio engineer at the DVD authoring facility has listened to this DVD and comments that there are sections where the audio is heavier on the right but this is due to the mix itself, evidently a creative decision made at the mix stage. This occurs only in certain sections (like acoustic guitar and voice only), as per the source tape. It’s particularly evident on “Back On The Chain Gang”, roughly 3dB different at times which is noticeable, but is not an error or a fault.

    If you feel that the above is not sufficient, please send in your copy to the below address and we will investigate further.

    Demon Music Group
    Television Centre
    101 Wood Lane
    London
    W12 7FA

    With thanks,
    DMG”

    Therefore, they don’t seem to be acknowledging that there is a problem that needs to be rectified.

  46. Eric says:

    Yet apparently the original DVD release does not have these sound issues. So, either the mastertape has deteriorated in the time since, or someone at DMG is not being entirely honest.

  47. JudeMac says:

    Got mine and my name on the poster as well ;-)

  48. Mr. Echo says:

    Which CD master (first edition/2006/2015) you prefer, is a matter of personal taste/preference. I think the original vinyl pressings still have the best sound.

    The following tracks are missing, but should have been included:
    Suicide (1977 demo)
    Do I Love You (1977 demo)
    1969 (1988 single)
    Tattooed Love Boys, Precious and Mystery Achievement (Santa Monica Civic 1981 concert)

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