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Prince / Sign ‘O’ The Times / 1987 concert film reissued as 4-disc deluxe

Dolby Atmos mix • 2 x blu-ray + 2 x DVD • New documentaries/interviews

This September, Germany’s Turbine Media Group is releasing a limited four-disc deluxe edition of Prince‘s Sign ‘O’ The Times concert film from 1987.

The package will include two blu-ray discs and two DVDs with the blu-ray featuring a Dolby Atmos surround mix, an Auro-3D 11.1 mix and the original stereo mix.

It also boasts a newly commissioned 85-minute interview documentary called ‘Prince – The Peach & Black Times’ which will feature Dr. Fink (keyboards), Susan Rogers (sound engineer), Steve Purcell (editor), Leroy Bennett (stage and lighting design), Gert de Bruijn & Michiel Hoogeboezom (sound engineers), Dave Rusan (Rusan Guitarworks) and Edgar Kruize (author of ‘Prince: The Dutch Experience’).

Additionally this set comes with an exclusive audio commentary by The Peach and Black Podcast, a booklet with new writing by Prince expert Edgar Kruize and a foreword by Dr. Funkenberry. The bonus Blu-ray and DVD with over two hours of extended interviews.

This deluxe set comes in large format (12-inch) packaging and includes a heart shaped sticker, a large-size booklet, an A1 theatrical poster and five black and white photos. Newly commissioned artwork is by Martin Homent, Prince’s art director for his last two albums (Hitnrun Phase One + Two).

Fans around the world should note that this product is locked to region 2 (DVD) or B for blu-ray. This a licensing restriction.

This Sign ‘O’ The Times deluxe edition will be issued on 13 September 2019. At the moment it’s only available via Amazon in Germany, but that might change. Technical details and track listing below.

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Features:
-2 Blu-ray Discs + 2 DVDs
-Blu-ray Disc with audio in Dolby Atmos and Auro-3D 11.1 + Original Stereo Mix
-Newly commissioned artwork by Martin Homent Art who already was responsible for the cover art of the Prince albums “Hitnrun Phase One + Two

Blu-ray disc
Video: 1080p24 Full HD (1.78:1)
Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 Stereo, Dolby Atmos (Dolby Digital 5.1 compatible), Auro-3D 11.1 (DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and 7.1 compatible)
Subtitles: feature film: German (dialogues), English (lyrics), bonus material: German (optional)

DVD
Video: 16:9 anamorphic (PAL)
Audio: Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo, Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: Feature film: German (dialogues), English (lyrics) Bonus material: German (optional)

Setlist
1. Intro
2. Sign “O” the Times
3. Play in the Sunshine
4. Little Red Corvette
5. Housequake
6. Slow Love
7. I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man
8. Hot Thing
9. Now’s the Time
10. U Got the Look (music video)
11. If I Was Your Girlfriend
12. Forever in My Life / It
13. It’s Gonna Be a Beautiful Night
14. The Cross
15. Sign “O” the Times (instrumental)

111 responses to Prince / Sign ‘O’ The Times / 1987 concert film reissued as 4-disc deluxe

  1. Gil Griffith says:

    Received this set today in the USA from Germany. I have a multi-region, PAL/NTSC Oppo 4K BluRay player that plays pretty much everything.

    This set is impressive – the packaging is first rate, solid and beautifully constructed. The BluRay has more audio options than I have seen in most BluRay concert releases, And to answer the previous post from May regarding the stereo LPCM track, it’s 48kHz 24 bit.

    The Dolby Atmos 11.1, 7.1 and DTS HD MA 5.1 sound amazing. The picture quality is very good, much better than the version I DVR’d from Showtime a while back.

    I too wish there were more concert footage content from this tour – that there were some sort of “extras” included bedsore the documentary. But for what it is, it’s the best I’ve seen to date. As for the BluRay / DVD combo bring the reason for it being 4 discs, for me it’s not an issue as I have DVD-A in the car stereo, and that’s where the DVD from this set is going to live.

    Price was a genius, and this album/tour/concert film is from one of the best and most prolific periods of his career. Hats off also to engineer Susan Rogers for her patient and exceptional work on the audio production.

    And thank you Paul Sinclair for the e-mail letting us know about the availability of this set in the first place. I think it sold out on pre-sale, so I feel fortunate to have locked down this fine set – it was worth the wait.

    • Just wanted to add I did NOT have a region problem, either with my OPPO BD-83 or a newer Sony 4K player – in both machines, the “Due to the region of this machine, this disc will not play” popped up — and was bypassed by pressing the “top menu” button.

      So, another big win for region locking.

  2. Michael says:

    It’s been out one day and it’s only available from re-sellers. Gawd, Amazon is a hot mess anymore.

  3. Mark says:

    Looks like it will only be a couple more days until delivery…

  4. Peter says:

    I understand about saturation of the market.
    Prince foundation, or whatever, needs to give people what they want.
    -First 9 albums remastered and deluxed.
    -Original (truly never before heard) songs from the vault.

    They are wasting time! The average age of the fans are getting older and even dying. 50-65

    Get on with it.

    • David Ogletree says:

      Totally agree about the age. He has been gone over 3 years now & not one entire album of unreleased never heard before music. Give us something. The Originals is nice, but we have heard it -we knew he produced it.

      Like did he finish the song “player” or “Get Blue”,

  5. Alan Mitchell says:

    That moment he slides across the stage, between that girls legs and whips her knickers off with his teeth.

    Only Prince could do that and have women all over the world wishing it were them :)

    • paul says:

      Yeah it was more cats rar rar skirt than knickers (can you imagine if it was her knickers) but it was still an awesome moment

      • Alan Mitchell says:

        My mistake. Personally I’d have gone for the knickers. But then if i slid across the stage i’d look more like The Inbetweeners than Prince.

  6. Louis says:

    Why Bluray and DVD in the same package?

  7. Jim says:

    For those saying “SOTT” doesn’t need remastering…wow, I don’t know what format you have it on, but the CD is flat as hell. The singles released on later ‘Hits’ CDs makes that obvious. And I’ve got to know…can I this Blu-Ray in my player at home in the U.S. and expect it to work? This was *almost* an automatic “CLICK TO PRE-ORDER!!” thing for me, before I started reading the comment thread.

    • Peter N says:

      The incredible thing is, the very best SOUND you will get of this is if you record it FROM a four head hi-fi VHS tape! It will BLOW YOU AWAY! The Blu Ray i haven’t heard yet. But i doubt if it’ll come out as good!
      In terms of musicianship and professionalism, this was his masterpiece.
      Purple Rain was the most beautiful album ANYONE has ever done. So I give it the overall nod. Plus I think, and it’s evidenced when you watch Prince perform on the Purple Rain tour, that THAT album was HIS TRUEST SELF realized in MUSIC. Purple Rain WAS who PRINCE really was! He let it show for an instant! Then HE tucked it back away only to be revealed in little flashes from then on.
      MAY U LIVE 2 SEE THE DAWN.

  8. 2wicky says:

    PAL/NTSC discussion

    With Bluray discs that PAL/NTSC discussion is obsolete because Blurays have a different encoding. PAL/NTSC is only applicable for SDTV/DVD formats and still there most TVs and DVD players built after ~2000 can display both PAL and NTSC.

    And of course ‘Ryk’ is right, PAL is the prevalent format worldwide for SDTV/DVD content worldwide, NTSC was only used in North America and parts of South America and Japan, the rest of the world has been using PAL format.
    Nevertheless both my DVD player and TV could display both formats when bought in the late 90s, both have died since and been replaced and still my new equipment (out of the box of a regular store) can display both formats – so I don’t see any argument here. The real issue of course is the region coding – this prohibits playback in other regions and you need a region free player to play back without a problem.

    • elliott buckingham says:

      is it not still possible to find region code unlocks on the internet and just imput them using the bluray/dvd remote

    • Neil Wilkes says:

      @2wicky
      Sorry, but it really DOES matter – and not just the region coding but the big issue here is that 99% of “PAL” footage is shot at 25fps, and that is not in the Blu-ray specs in progressive scan – at 25fps it must be interlaced, and even with region locking bypassed you will STILL HAVE ISSUES PLAYING A 25FPS DISC ON MOST US DISPLAYS!!!!!
      Sorry to resort to shouting by use of the caps, but speaking as someone who has an understanding of what is involved here it infuriates me when I keep reading about how PAL/NTSC no longer matters. It does, and it matters because of the frame rates used.
      Here are the primary Blu-ray video specifications:
      i/. 1920×1080 (aka”Full HD”) allowing frame rates of 29.97i, 25i, 24p and 23.976p
      ii/. 1440×1080 allowing frame rates of 29.97i, 25i, 24p and 23.96p
      iii/. 1280×720 allowing frame rates of 59.94p, 50p, 24p and 23.976p
      iv/. 720×576 allowing a frame rate of 25i
      v/. 720×480 allowing a frame rate of 29.97i

      So you will see that anything shot at either 25fps or 29.97fps using 1920×1080 must be interlaced – so not HD to begin with, as nothing interlaced is truly High Definition. I know of countless US systems where 25fps simply will not output any picture, and also the reverse where 29.97 interlaced will not run on UK setups (although this is rarer, it does happen with players that will immediately throw an “unknown disc” error when faced with a 1920×1080@29.97fps primary video channel.

      There is really no good reason for anyone to use 25fps or 29.97fps these days, as all HD content should ideally be at 23.976fps (or 24fps) which allows progressive footage. Same rate as for film. Funny, that.
      The reasons PAL/NTSC mattered in the first place was always because of display issues caused by the different frequency of the mains – PAL is at 25fps because the frequency rate of the mains supply is 50Hz, NTSC is at 30fps because it’s mains frequency is 60Hz. It is that simple and the problems still seem to plague disc developers because a frame rate conversion is not always possible to achieve – doing this using AlchemistHD usually means that the audio will need to be fiddled with as Alchemist does a frame for frame conversion & literally speeds up on a 25>24 conversion yet slows down from 30>24 (you can hear this problem beautifully on any PAL version of Bowie’s “Life On Mars” as the film is always at the wrong (too slow) speed on every DVD I have bought).

      So please, stop trying to say this does not matter, or is a non issue – it isn’t. Just because you are fortunate enough to have a combo that actually works does not mean this is globally true.

  9. Emilio Lafarga Giribets says:

    I own the Japanese limited edition and the sound is great. It also lokks quite nice apart from the “You’ve got the look” videoclip which looks softer. I preordered it hoping sound will be more impressive if it’s well remixed into Atmos.

  10. Haro Musters says:

    Hi Paul,
    The audio engineer’s name is Michiel Hoogenboezem. (He’s worked with Mick Jagger, Bon Jovi and Tina Turner a.o. Had major European success in 1991 with the song You by Ten Sharp, which he engineered and co-produced)

  11. MusicFan says:

    I’ve just remembered an interesting little trivia about this concert film.

    During the opening sequence, Prince and Cat are on the street, the camera is on a crane mount and sweeps down to them.

    If you look carefully to the left of the screen, the cameraman can be seen sat on the camera crane in the reflection of the windows.

    As 50+ inch TVs are very common these days, this makes it much easier to see!

    Also as the majority of this was re-shot on the soundstage at Paisley Park – due to severe technical problems during the original shoot – the small amount of footage used from Rotterdam can be identified as the band’s clothing suddenly changes and so does their position on stage and the audience changes!

    However, this is still a phenomenal concert film!!!!!

    :-)

  12. Michel Banen says:

    “Four disc deluxe” sounds REALLY exciting until you realise they make you pay for the same thing twice…. Who needs DVD if you can play blu-ray anyway !? But hey – ‘for disc set’ sounds more expensive and deluxe than ‘2 disc blu ray’ and it’s nothing more than a commercial trap since it’s not available as the 2 disc set it should be. But hey – I’m getting this anyway and I’m not even a huge Prince fan. In a time where physical product en CD’s aren’t selling as they used to I can only support deluxe editions.

  13. Elliott Buckingham says:

    I seem to remember at the time there were 2 VHS versions of this film part 1 and part 2 is this not included there looks less tracks than I remember

  14. Why are they not remastered the original album???? I’ve been waiting for that for years.

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      This is a concert film release. They don’t have any rights to the music, which Warners own.

    • Rock S says:

      Because it doesn’t need remastering :)

      • Quiet Wyatt says:

        If you have it on vinyl, it doesn’t need remastering. But SOTT sounds as tinny and oomphless on Warner Bros. CD as the rest of his ’80s albums. I wish WB would make it a priority to remaster the albums from Dirty Mind thru Lovesexy. It’s only Prince’s 9 finest years’ worth of music, no big deal, right?

      • Jim says:

        “SOTT” does need a good remaster. It sounds great if you happen to have a pristine copy of the original vinyl and a good turntable and a great sound system. But, if like most of us, what you have is the 2 CD set from the late 80’s-early 90’s….it sounds thin, has absolutely no dynamic range, and just sounds flat and dull. Listen to a few of the singles that were remastered for the later ‘hits’ compilations on CD. It’s like night and day.

  15. Jim says:

    last summer I upgraded to an amp that has dolby atmos as well as Auro 3D sound options… 11.2 sound makes almost anything sound amazing when mixed properly! so few music discs offer these sound options right now (kiss live in vegas has atmos, kraftwerk 3D live has atmos, and some audio only blu rays by BT, Tiesto, and others have Auro 3D sound options)… I ordered it the minute i read it had those sound options!

    • dobyblue says:

      Jim don’t forget Giles Martin’s excellent Atmos mix of INXS’ Kick on the Kick 30 set’s Blu-ray

  16. Charlie Waffles says:

    Let’s get this package available for all regions!

    • MusicFan says:

      This won’t happen has the current rights are just for region 2.

      The Estate could step in and release their own version for region 1 but they will need to buy the rights to this and then do their own remaster, unless of course they buy this new remaster.

      :-)

  17. Tom m hans says:

    I saw that show in Frankfurt 1987 and the video was always incomplete. I will stick with my freebie Rolling Stone Germany commerotative DVD giveaway for now. Also, I am running out of space.
    Anybody got a response in regards to Heaven 17 replacement discs?

  18. Gisabun says:

    DVDs with the Blu-rays. I can’t see too many people watching both.
    Sure you can pass the DVDs along to someone else [or the BRs] but it is a waste of packaging.
    Surely Prince was big enough to have separate releases. Even better, include the CDs of the concert as some/most want.

    • Matthew McKinnon says:

      They are handy if you want to rip the content to watch on a portable device. I’m not suggesting piracy, more that sometimes I might want to watch something I own on a plane or when I’m working away from home, and a Blu-Ray isn’t practical there.

  19. Mearsi says:

    It’s beautiful cover artwork.

  20. SimonP says:

    Description says Blu-ray disc then DVD disc. What’s on the other two?

  21. O(+> Peter B says:

    Sheila E’s drum solo on Now’s The Time is my favourite ever, just incredible.

  22. thomas solimine says:

    Rape and pillage the fan’s wallet. Does it end? When does it end.

  23. CJ says:

    I’m glad to see someone is taking issuing this film seriously. The DVD I have is passable, but could be so much better. I hope this is a step toward seeing a better release of it world-wide, sort of like how Criterion Editions often precede a better standard release from the actual studio.

    That said, there could be so much more done with this, and I hope this is the first step toward the massive Super Deluxe Edition this era deserves. In the end, what I would like to see:

    1. The complete original album properly remastered.
    2. All the single mixes, extended versions, b-sides from the era.
    3. All the tracks that were destined for the shelved Dream Factory and Crystal Ball projects that eventually were distilled down to the 2-disc Sing o’ the Times album. I know most of this is available on bootleg, but it’s time we got a proper, remastered version on legal media for it. Ideally (and some people may argue this is over kill) I’d like to see the shelved albums appear in this in their originally intended sequences, even when some of the tracks are identical to the finished version that was released, because I would like the opportunity to listen to them as originally intended. (Yes, I know, I could program it or burn my own copies, but come on–if this is a truly archival release, then let’s go all-out on it. Besides, think of the singles boxes we all beg for where the same b-side appears on three discs in the box and we accept it because it’s consistent with the original product being represented.)
    4. The documentaries on the making of the film and album (and if there is archival film of Prince from this era–or even other eras–discussing it, then it should be included) as well as a documentary on the curation and production of the Super Deluxe Edition (finding the masters, remastering them, selecting the extra content, debating what can’t make the cut, etc.).
    5. The concert (naturally)
    6. Audio disks of the complete concert.
    7. All videos from the era including any from the vault that were made but not released. (Imagine the pace Prince must have kept–not only are there loads of audio tracks that were recorded and shelved in the vaults, he even has entire videos he made that are just sitting on a shelf.)

    Yes, this would be a massive set–probably something in the way of 20 discs, all-told. But this is the kind of album that deserves it. And as we’ve seen in the past few years, it’s possible to release a massive, multi-set box and still have it affordable (on a “gift to myself basis) for the average fan without requiring a second mortgage.

    There are days when I would be willing to give up almost everything in my life to be hired to have the job of archiving The Vault and assembling the posthumous releases. I’d even give up my house and sleep on a cot in The Vault. I would agree to wear only purple and walk in lifts. I would never write the word “you” again and only use “U.” I would allow purple-dyed doves to roost in my hair. That’s how much I would love to have that job rather than some accountant thinking about how much can be made rather than what makes sense from an actual historical.archival point of view.

  24. Edo says:

    I am wondering whether the picture quality of this edition is improved from previous DVD versions. (I already have a DVD version.)

  25. Kauwgompie says:

    Bummer this isn’t playable in the USA. It’s his best period IMHO and it looks like a great package. Hopefully when Sign Of The Times gets its luxury treatment, we’ll get this added as a Blu Ray (in addition to the 5 audio discs, 3 with unreleased music, LOL, one can dream).

  26. noyoucmon says:

    I’m sure I’m not the only one who first saw this information via a SDE e-mail and about fell over upon seeing the “4-disc deluxe” subject line, thinking it was a deluxe reissue of the album.

  27. Michael says:

    I saw at this at the cinema in 1987 which was great. After Prince died bought the blu Ray of it. A reasonably good quality edition as well. Some parts are amazing. Because some of it is live & some from a sound stage I’m not so sure it holds up well unlike the Purple Rain film. I ended up selling the blu Ray & am positive that when the estate re releases the album this show will be included. I’m gonna wait till then.

  28. Rob says:

    An absolute shame that America (at least as of this writing( is not following suit. SOTT is easily Prince’s best album (IMHO) and SOTT is indeed a great “concert” film. Just a shame that all regions cant benefit from what looks to be an amazing box.

  29. Al Jones says:

    Any info on the stereo audio? Will it be CD format (16/44) or hi-rez (24/96 or 24/192)?

    • SimonP says:

      I’m also interested to know if the soundtrack will be one I can hear or another one I can hear that sounds exactly the same but has bigger numbers in the description and so must be better.

  30. Carlos says:

    I bet this release does not have any input from the Prince estate. So, the first disc must be the same previously released documentary with some (if any) upgrading, and the second one will be the interview and documentary disc, which does not require any authorisation or input from them either. I won’t set my hopes too high for this stuff.

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      This is the same Prince Estate that forced you to buy a T-shirt to get the vinyl picture disc of ‘Nothing Compares 2 U’. It’s irrelevant to me. Prince musicians, engineers, fans and his art director have all contributed to what looks like a great package.

      • Carlos says:

        My point is that, regarding the original concert film, there will be nothing new and no access to original audio/video tapes that could be used to improve this release. They probably video-recorded a whole concert of this tour, or at least more song performances, which could have been included as a bonus if this release was estate-approved (but it’s not, and that’s why it’s a Germany-only edition). But as it is, it’s a re-release with a new documentary. I’m not saying it’s a bad release, I’m just thinking about what could have been.

  31. Dan says:

    I saw 4 disc deluxe and got overly excited. This is my favorite Prince album and also probably the one with worst audio quality (aside from 1999). I’d love a deluxe reissue.

    • Michael says:

      The SMH CD of Sign from Japan while not perfect sounds better. I have been buying Princes music on vinyl since 1984. CDs of them up to Sign always thought sounded poor. I now have the first 10 albums on SHM & am happy with them or at least best that’s available until 2021 when the remastered albums start being reissued. Warner’s in Japan has a series of Prince CDs called forever young which maybe the same quality. From what I have read they may have made the sound on the discs louder.

  32. Jeff says:

    Hi Paul….thanks for this. But is there any chance if you know if this is a LIMITED EDITION or not? And if so how many? If you don’t could you please try to find out.

    Your cooperation in this matter would be greatly appreciated

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      I don’t know numbers, but many are advising that these sets from Turbine Media Group are indeed fairly limited and often sell out on pre-order.

  33. Jeff says:

    Just ordered 3x…..this will definitely sell out on pre-order!!

    • noyoucmon says:

      @Jeff: Things sell out even more quickly when individual buyers purchase 3 copies.

    • Brixet says:

      Snap! One to play, one to keep unopened, and one to sell on at a handsome profit to fund the original 3 purchases.

  34. Peter Muscutt says:

    With any package where is a DVD and Blu-Ray included, I usually pass the DVD to a friend or family member if its something they are interested in. Have done it with the ‘Phantom of the Opera’ stage show DVD/BR, and some other live concert packages for various bands/artists. OK, they don’t have a case to store it in, but beggars can’t be choosers!

  35. Jeff Rougvie says:

    It’s economics; with the scarcity of places to sell physical media, you likely wouldn’t get it all if the only option was to issue two different versions. Is it wasteful? Sure. Is it better than no release? Yes.

  36. WILLIAM ENGLAND says:

    Would anyone who has a Dolby Atmos set-up please tell me:
    how much is it on average,
    is there a significant difference between DTS 5.1 and DA,
    and, finally, does the system “upgrade” DTS 5.1 in the same way that Blu-ray players upgrade DVDs.

    • Bryan K. says:

      Hi, William. I upgraded my home theater in late 2018 with a 4K set up (55 in. 4K TV, Denon 4K Receiver, sony 4K Blu-ray player, and shelf Atmos speakers). The receiver cost me about $400 USD. The Atmos speakers I purchased are the Sony shelf speakers that replaced my two rear surround channels. I read that you don’t need to necessarily hook the Atmos speakers up in the front or side channels to achieve the sound quality Atmos delivers.

      Even having them hooked up in the rear surround channel, they sound amazing. Yes, you definitely can notice a difference. I have a pet that constantly looks up at the ceiling when I have Atmos going too – haha. The Sony speakers were only $100 USD at Best Buy. Worth the upgrade.

      As far as your last question – I’m not sure. I do know that DTS-HD is far better than DTS 5.1 but you need the right A/V receive to decode that.

      I’m no expert but hope this helps!

      • WILLIAM ENGLAND says:

        It does – thank you very much for taking the time to reply – most appreciated.

  37. Simonf says:

    Saw this film when it had a limited run at the Dominion Theatre in London’s busy Tottenham Court Road back in the day. Very impressive.
    Picked it up years later on DVD when it was given away free with the Observer newspaper. Excellent. (The following week they gave away Talking Heads Stop Making Sense DVD which came complete with all it’s bonus features!) It now sits inside my vinyl copy of the Sign O The Times DLP.
    So don’t need this again; have no surround sound set up and do I really need to sit through 85 minutes of talking heads (hey! see what I did there) telling us how great Prince and this concert was – no, we already know that!

  38. David Scott says:

    Firstly, I think it is great we are getting something new from one of his best quality periods. I also think insights from the people around him are a good add on.
    However, in an age of increasing environmental friendliness and greater awareness of value for money, I do not see the point of both Blu-ray and DVD. And most certainly not two versions for the bonus content. Seriously, a bunch of interviews in two different formats.
    Better to plug in CD editions (copyright permitting) or, even better, some video or CDs of other SOTT concerts from around that time.
    Many of the people considering this will already have it in some format so pushing the boundaries to add new and valuable content would really support the price tag. Many will buy anyway but give them something for their money and avoid taking the easy route.

  39. Chris says:

    It looks like a great package but once again the U.S. doesn’t have a release. Several versions have been available in Japan, Europe, Canada over the years but not an official DVD or Blu-Ray in the America. Also who is company putting it out? Have they done anything else & how did they get the rights?

    • Malcy says:

      @Chris

      Turbine, are one of the biggest independent distributors of deluxe film (video) releases in Germany. They have a fantastic track record of the quality of their titles both in video and audio quality and the packaging.

      I have a number of their boxsets. All superb, but expensive limited edition deluxe boxsets.

      This will be a good investment as Turbine limited editions always sell out and command high prices in the resale market.

  40. Urs says:

    PS: I hope that FSK label on the cover (obligatory for video releases in Germany) is on a removable sticker and not printed on the cover. Otherwise it would be a bummer!

    • Grégory says:

      If you take a closer look at the picture, it seems to be removable. ;-)

      • Urs says:

        Yeah, you’re right, it looks like it’s removable. :-)

      • Derek says:

        I’ve had bad experiences with FSK stickers that looked removable, but weren’t. They were stickers, but they weren’t removable.

        • kook says:

          Non-removable stickers truly are the devil’s work.

          Why put stickers on anything anyway? Just… why??

  41. Urs says:

    Just out of curiosity two technical questions:
    – What’s on the second BR/DVD? Is it the bonus material? Or do you need two of each because of the different sound formats?
    – Are the German subtitles for the feature film dialogues optional or “hard-coded”? The text mentions “optional” for the bonuses but not for the film dialogues.

    Otherwise it looks like a very interesting package and I guess I’ll order it even though I neither own a BR player nor a sound system capable of playing anything other than stereo sound. ;-)

  42. Rodolfo Martin says:

    Why not releasing it in ALL REGION blu-ray discs as many other European blu-rays does? Why only a German release? PAL system works only in Germany and a couple of other countries 9I think UK is PAL too (although I have some British blu-ray disc that work in standar American blu-ray players. It won’t work in regular American blu-players. I concise with a previous post: what do we want the DVD disc if the blu-ray provides a much better picture? It is a good release! It has to be an international release. I will not buy it for not even it is limited.
    Paul, what happened with the interview with Michael Howe? If the information of this release coming from him?

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      The reason is that the company putting this out will not have the international (US for example) rights to release it, so they have to show reasonable measures to ensure that their product can’t be viewed (easily) in those regions. It would probably breach the rights of company that *does* own rights for the USA.

    • CJ says:

      When the Blu Rays are not region locked (meaning they can be played anywhere) I don’t think PAL or NTSC actually matter all that much, ad my plain old every day Blu-Ray player with no after-market up grades will play PAL just fine here in the states. I think perhaps it’s a side effect of the upscaling process, perhaps (since most Blu-ray players now upscale)? The only problem I ever encounter is region encoding, which isn’t an issue for DVDs as I have a region-free layer, but have yet to invest in a region-free Blu-ray player.

    • Ryk says:

      “PAL system works only in Germany and a couple of other countries.” Really? Of the 195 countries in the world, PAL is used in approximately 125 of them (most of the countries in Asia, African, Europe, South America and Oceania). A quick google search would have given that information.

  43. Robert Meighan says:

    Pricey but a must have for Prince fans…the concert tour movie of him at the peak of his genius…I consider the Sign o the times album to be the best of the 80s so i am looking forward to getting this.

  44. Reuben says:

    Was the concert on film or videotape?
    Thank you.

    • Graham Turner says:

      The majority – both concert footage and additional ‘vignettes’ – was shot on 35mm film as it was originally released to cinemas. The only exception to this is the ‘U Got The Look’ clip which is just the music video dropped in the middle of the film. This section has always been of a lower quality then the rest of the film, even on its original cinema release.

  45. Michael says:

    I have a dvd only laptop but blu ray with my main system.
    Option is there to watch physical media in bed for instance.

  46. Lee Rosevere says:

    Region 2 only. BOO.

  47. Edward says:

    wish everybody would stop complaining about this or the other (package, quantity of discs). Just be satisfied for once: it promises to be a great package ….period!
    New artwork, new interviews/documentary, etc.

    • Jan Spring says:

      Edward, absolutely right. Glad that this one comes in this form.

    • Stuart Ansell says:

      I wholeheartedly concur with this comment – well said!

      Have a lovely weekend everyone, enjoy the nice things.

  48. Rune T says:

    @ Geert: Probably to avoid having 2 separate products for sale. The extra cost of doing it this way is negligible compared to having two sets in stock/distribution where the only difference is the media type inside the box.

    • What? Prince? Worry? says:

      the extra cost is on the eblorate 12 inch package and similar sized booklet which in all holds 4 discs, a waste to be honest and has bumped this to 55 euros (assuming probably retail for bout £80 quid on Amazon UK at first), wonder how much the packaging cost compared to two separate packages with reduced booklet and smaller packaging? (£15 for DVD and £25 for blu-ray?)

      • Paul Sinclair says:

        I like the idea of getting that wonderful looking artwork on 12″ x 12″.

        • What? Prince? Worry? says:

          Due to limited availability and in UK and I like Prince. I caved in on this.

      • Malcy says:

        @What? Prince? Worry?
        Turbine releases don’t appear on Amazon.co.uk as they are deluxe limited edition packages for the German market, hence why on Amazon.de

        Other German retailers will also list them but unlikely anyone outside Germany.

        Also these Turbine limited editions usually sell out in the pre-order phase so before release date. Don’t expect this to stay available for long given the Prince fan base.

        They can sell out these limited editions without discounting.

        • ROBIN PULLEN says:

          Malcy is absolutely correct, according to Record Collector Magazine (if I remember correctly) this will only be issued in Germany with the new documentary; however a planed standard dvd/blu ray re-issue is apparently happening in the UK and other territories but this particular set (especially with the new doc) is exclusive to Germany.

  49. What? Prince? Worry? says:

    Wouldn’t of this been better in a super deluxe with LP/CD and period b-sides, mixes and other bits and pieces?

    Don’t think I will be a fan of the 12 inch format, smacks of paper wastage when a smaller compact copy would of done me nicely in a nice slip package or audio book style with booklet. Not gonna look good on the shelf with other blu-rays.

    • Malcy says:

      Turbine who have licenced and are releasing this boxset are a film (video) distributor.
      They don’t do music whether CDs or Vinyl.

      It isn’t coming from the record label.

    • Graham Turner says:

      It would, but the rights of this film have always been complicated – hence the varying, inconsistent releases over the years. These guys have obviously managed to get hold of the ‘international’ rights and have gone to town on the release. It’s possible The Estate might eventually acquire the US and/or International rights and do something with a combined deluxe SOTT release but, given the unfocused nature of the official posthumous releases to date, I am more than happy to have this release.

  50. Mark Williams says:

    Wondering whether to order now or wait for a uk release?

    • Graham Turner says:

      There is a UK release planned but it won’t contain the documentary – this will be on the German version only.

  51. Andrew Greenwood says:

    perhaps this would have been a good place to release the original Netherlands and Belgium concert footage. there should be space across two Blu Rays!

  52. Kevin says:

    I’m not sure why you would need the DVDs when you have the Blu rays, apart from that it’s a great package.

  53. Geert says:

    After all these years, I still don’t understand the appeal of putting ‘identical’ Blu-ray and DVD discs in the same package? You either need one or the other … never BOTH? Am I missing the point?

    • Matthew North says:

      Geert – its cheaper to produce an all in one package with both than to have separately printed versions.

      • Geert says:

        @Matthew Possibly. But more expensive to buy! And what do you get for it? Who, after watching the Bluray thinks ‘let’s now watch the DVD’ …?

        • Gareth Cole says:

          @Geert – and what a waste of resources. I totally agree.

        • Stuart Ansell says:

          I have a DVD drive on my laptop. I have a Blu-ray player with 5.1 surround at home. Having more options is rarely a problem – having fewer options almost always is….

        • David Bly says:

          Regarding “Who, after watching the Bluray thinks ‘let’s now watch the DVD’ …?”

          1. Read what Stuart Ansell said.

          2. Some people who now only have DVD may eventually upgrade to Blu-ray, and this is a perfect way to allow this.

          3. IS it that much more expensive? Not necessarily. The discs themselves are cheap to make, and the decent companies* out there will only add a few euros/pounds/dollars on to the price, or no more that they would release the Blu-ray version for.
          The BFI (British Film Institute) is very good about this. Their dual-disc editions cost no more than their Blu-ray only editions.
          Of course the price is often determined by who owns the rights to the particular films, and the company releasing the discs may have to raise prices because of that.

          4. In any case, more is always better for everybody, as long as the price is not completely outrageous.

          *Yes, I know this is funny.

    • CJ says:

      I know I’m a very limited case, but there are times I do appreciate having both Blu-Ray and DVD in the package–mostly when I’m using the film for teaching in class, as I have a Blu-Ray player at home, but our school has just barely entered the DVD age in our classrooms.

      Once again, I totally acknowledge that I am an anomaly in this discussion.

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