Universal Music Catalogue are making the super deluxe edition box sets of Tears For Fears‘ first two albums The Hurting and Songs From The Big Chair available again. Additionally, a Songs From The Big Chair vinyl picture disc will be released to mark the 35th anniversary and SDE will publish a special celebratory booklet: How Songs From The Big Chair Ruled the World.
As many readers will know I helped curate both TFF box sets and contributed sleeve notes/interviews for both packages. The Hurting is a 3CD+DVD box set that offers the remastered album, a disc of B-sides and remixes, a CD of rare radio sessions and finally the In My Mind’s Eye concert on DVD. It was first issued in October 2013 and comes with two booklets: a reproduction of a tour programme and my notes, which include quotes from interviews with Roland and Curt, conducted at the time.
Originally issued just over a year later, in November 2014, the Songs From The Big Chair super deluxe edition is a bigger offering, featuring four CDs and two DVDs. This set delivers a truly phenomenal amount of audio with every commercially issued b-side and remix of the era included, along with previously unreleased radio sessions and early mixes. The first DVD includes Steven Wilson’s 5.1 surround mix (and his stereo mix) while the second brings together the Scenes From The Big Chair documentary, a long interview with producer Chris Hughes, promo videos and TV appearances. Again, this comes with a tour booklet replica and a second booklet with band and producers discussing the album ‘in their own words’ (interviews edited and conducted by myself). There is also a detailed guide to the bonus material.
New for 2020, is a limited edition 35th anniversary vinyl picture disc of Songs From The Big Chair and we’re not done yet, since I’m delighted to announce a sixth in the series of SDE ‘keepsake’ booklets with a publication that focuses on Tears For Fears’ 1985 album and is called How Songs From The Big Chair Ruled The World.
New SDE booklet ‘How Songs From The Big Chair Ruled The World’ (click to image to enlarge).
The How Songs From The Big Chair Ruled The World booklet features new content by SDE editor Paul Sinclair (me!), pulling on hours of interviews with key members, a new interview with Roland and fresh insight from engineer Dave Bascombe. It explores, in detail, all aspects of the album, including the recording process, the songs, the singles, the marketing, the chart success and the aftermath.
The two box sets, the new vinyl picture disc and SDE booklet will all be released on 13 March 2020 and everything is available to order via the SDE shop, with the booklet exclusive to that channel. If you are wondering about The Seeds of Love and ‘the new album’, the record label say “new material and further reissues on the horizon”!
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CD 1 – The Hurting
- The Hurting
- Mad World
- Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love)
- Ideas As Opiates
- Memories Fade
- Suffer The Children
- Watch Me Bleed
- Change
- The Prisoner
- Start Of The Breakdown
CD 2 – B-sides and Remixes
- Suffer The Children (7″ Version)
- Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love)
- The Prisoner (B-side)
- Ideas As Opiates (B-side)
- Change (New Version)
- Suffer The Children (Remix)
- Pale Shelter (You Don’t Give Me Love) (Extended Version)
- Mad World (World Remix)
- Change (Extended Version)
- Pale Shelter (Extended Version)
- Suffer The Children (Instrumental)
- Change (7″ Edit)
- Wino (B-Side)
- The Conflict (B-Side)
- We Are Broken (B-Side)
- Suffer The Children (Promo CD Version)
CD 3 – Live Sessions
Peel Session 01.09.1982
- 1. Ideas As Opiates
- 2. Suffer The Children
- 3. The Prisoner
- 4. The Hurting
Jensen Session 20.10.1982
- 5. Memories Fade
- 6. The Prisoner
- 7. The Start Of The Breakdown
- 8. The Hurting
From ‘The Way You Are’ single
- 9. Start Of The Breakdown (Live)
- 10. Change (Live)
CD 4 – DVD – In My Mind’s Eye – Live At Hammersmith Odeon
- Start Of The Breakdown
- Mothers Talk
- Pale Shelter
- The Working Hour
- The Prisoner
- Ideas As Opiates
- Mad World
- We Are Broken
- Head Over Heels
- Suffer The Children
- The Hurting
- Memories Fade
- Change
Songs From The Big Chair – 4CD+DVD super deluxe edition
DISC ONE – Album with special cassette-only bonus tracks recreated
01. SHOUT : 6:31
02. THE WORKING HOUR : 6:29
03. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:09
04. MOTHERS TALK : 5:04
05. I BELIEVE : 4:54
06. BROKEN : 2:38
07. HEAD OVER HEELS : 5:02
08. LISTEN : 6:54
Bonus tracks
09. THE BIG CHAIR : 3:20
10. EMPIRE BUILDING : 2:41
11. THE MARAUDERS : 4:13
12. BROKEN REVISITED : 5:15
13. THE CONFLICT : 4:02
14. THE WORKING HOUR – Piano Version : 2:08
15. PHARAOHS : 03:42
16. WHEN IN LOVE WITH A BLIND MAN : 2:22
17. SEA SONG : 3:51
DISC TWO – Edited Songs From The Big Chair
01. THE WAY YOU ARE : 4:49
02. MOTHERS TALK – Single Version : 3:53
03. SHOUT – Single Version : 5:58
04. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Single Version : 4:14
05. HEAD OVER HEELS – Remix : 4:15
06. I BELIEVE (A Soulful Re-Recording) : 4:39
07. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN THE WORLD : 4:30
08. THE WAY YOU ARE – Short Version : 4:21
09. MOTHERS TALK – U.S. Remix : 4:14
10. SHOUT – U.S. Single Version : 4:51
11. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN THE WORLD – Running Version : 4:30
12. HEAD OVER HEELS – Radio Version : 4.20
13. MOTHERS TALK – Video Version : 4:14
14. SHOUT – Short Version : 4:03
15. LISTEN – Clean Intro : 6:52
15. INTERVIEW WITH CURT & ROLAND : 7:35
DISC THREE – Remixed Songs From The Big Chair (exclusive to box)
01. THE WAY YOU ARE – Extended Version : 7:37
02. MOTHERS TALK – Extended Version : 6:18
03. SHOUT – Extended Remix Version : 7:40
04. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Extended Version : 5:40
05. BROKEN / HEAD OVER HEELS / BROKEN – Preacher Mix : 8:00
06. MOTHERS TALK – Beat Of The Drum Mix : 8:54
07. SHOUT – U.S. Remix : 8:02
08. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Urban Mix : 6:06
09. MOTHERS TALK – U.S. Remix alternate : 4:12
10. SHOUT – Dub : 6:49
11. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Instrumental : 4:21
12. SHOUT – Acappella : 5:02
DISC FOUR – Unreleased Songs From The Big Chair (exclusive to box)
01. HEAD OVER HEELS : 4:14 Richard Skinner Session
02. THE WORKING HOUR : 6:06 Richard Skinner Session
03. BROKEN : 3:19 Richard Skinner Session
04. MOTHERS TALK : 4:05 Live At Massey Hall
05. BROKEN / HEAD OVER HEELS : 5:01 Live At Massey Hall
06. MEMORIES FADE : 6:50 Live At Massey Hall
07. THE WORKING HOUR : 7:31 Live At Massey Hall
08. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:19 Live At Massey Hall
09. SHOUT : 7:50 Live At Massey Hall
10. MOTHERS TALK – Early Mix / Instrumental : 4:39
11. THE WAY YOU ARE – Early Mix : 4:25
12. BROKEN – Early Mix : 5:38
13. SHOUT – Early Mix : 5:08
14. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Alternate Single Version: 4.20
DISC FIVE (DVD)
5.1 and Stereo mix
SHOUT : 6:32
THE WORKING HOUR : 6:31
EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:11
MOTHERS TALK : 5:10
I BELIEVE : 4:54
BROKEN : 2:38
HEAD OVER HEELS : 5:20
LISTEN : 6:49
DISC SIX (DVD)
Documentary
01. SCENES FROM THE BIG CHAIR – Documentary : 1:14:43
02. INTERVIEW WITH PRODUCER CHRIS HUGHES : 35:00
Promos
03. THE WAY YOU ARE – Music Video : 3:57
04. MOTHERS TALK – Alternative UK Video : 4:00
05..MOTHERS TALK – Music Video : 4.49
06. SHOUT – Music Video : 6:31
07. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Music Video : 4:52
08. HEAD OVER HEELS – Music Video : 4:26
09. I BELIEVE – Music Video : 4:45
10. MOTHERS TALK – US Mix – Music Video : 4:52
11. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN THE WORLD – Music Video : 4:52
BBC TV Appearances
03. THE WAY YOU ARE : 4:11 Top Of The Pops
04. MOTHERS TALK : 3:48 Top Of The Pops
05. MOTHERS TALK : 3:51 Top Of The Pops
06. SHOUT : 4:20 Top Of The Pops
07. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:08 Wogan
08. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 3.35 Top Of The Pops
09. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 3.45 Top Of The Pops
10. THE WORKING HOUR : 4:28 Wogan
i think it is interesting that their website has been down for a few weeks…hopefully, because it is being revamped for the seeds of love extravaganza
Hey guys.
Having just checked, the “Songs From The Big Chair” box seems available to pre-order at recordstore.co.uk again.
Get it while you can. :)
Amazing nearly a month to go till release and sold out everywhere apart from the robbers on flea bay!!!
Absolutely love this band and some of my earliest musical memories are of hearing “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” on the radio back in 1985. I’d already bought the single disc reissues from the late nineties and also the two disc Deluxe Edition of “Songs from the Big Chair” that came out back in 2006, but missed both these Super Deluxe boxes the first time around. I always intended to pick them up, but never quite got round to it. Before I knew it they were both out of print and going for crazy money. Over the last few years I’d been periodically checking places like eBay and Amazon to see if I could get a good deal on them, but the prices were always completely ridiculous. Funnily enough, about a week ago I checked eBay UK and there was a seller on there offering both boxes mint and sealed with a “Buy It Now” price of £600. Insane.
Anyway, I was delighted to read on here last week that they would be reissuing both boxes. I would have preferred to have bought them from the SDE shop but, just two days after being announced, they were already sold out there and gone from Amazon as well. Thankfully, I managed to pre-order both from recordstore.co.uk in time. I feel bad for all the fans who have missed out yet again, though. Surely the band and their management must realise that the demand is there and they still have a strong fanbase who will devour these kinds of releases? I think it’s very thoughtful of them to repress these so that people have a chance to get the full trilogy of their classic ’80s albums in Super Deluxe editions when the “Seeds” box finally appears, but I think the demand has been seriously underestimated. Either that or they only pressed a few of them, because selling out in just a few days when the release date is still a month away is pretty nuts. The sad truth is that I’d be willing to wager that a lot of them have been bought up by the scalpers for the inevitable pricey re-sells on eBay and the like, which only hurts the real fans at the end of the day.
Anyway, thanks for your work on these sets and the continued work on the site, Paul. Fingers crossed that eveyone who wants to snag these will get them eventually. Having just checked, they still have the box of “The Hurting” available on recordstore.co.uk if anyone is still looking for it.
Thanks Rob. Can only agree, it does appear as if they have rather underestimated demand.
Is it really too late for them to press another 2000 of each? These are cd/dvd not exactly custom built cars.
No idea if they will do that or not.
As of this morning, The Hurting is still available for pre-order on the US udiscovermusic.com site.
Anyone wanting the picture disc can pre order still from What Records
So upset I´ve missed both of the box sets again, why they dont make more available is beyond me, do you think they will make them available agin Paul
I ordered both box sets as I didn’t pull the trigger on first release in 2013 as I thought it was a bit pricey, didn’t need all the content and didn’t have a great 5.1 audio equipment at the time.
About the price, I don’t remember exactly the price in 2013 but if my memory serves well, it was approx £35 ?
It seems odd now but 7 years ago, I thought it wasn’t worth it (there were very few super deluxe editions at the time, it was still the era of double CD Deluxe Editions) and I didn’t need to hear all that material. I already had the albums on vinyl and CD plus the 12″ singles so I thought there was no need to spend £35 or £40 to own those box sets. It’s kinda funny because nowadays, £35 looks like is a pretty good price for a box set with 4 CDs and 2 DVDs. For example, PIL’s Public Image Is Rotten box set is currently £55 on Amazon UK and it contains 5 CDs and 2 DVDs. Roxy Music’s debut album SDE (3 CDs and 1 DVD) started at £100+ when it was released 3 years ago.
I guess lots of fans passed on the first release for the same reasons (already owned most of the material, no 5.1 audio equipment, price, etc.). I guess another factor for the renewed interest and high demand now for those TFF box sets is the Rule The World – Greatest Hits album, the Rule The World Tour 2019 and several TV appearances the past two years.
Really Looking forward to the SDE booklet of interviews, they really complement these boxset releases. The Paul McCartney ‘Flowers in the Dirt’ and Kate Bush ‘Before the Dawn’ booklets that preceded were absolute gems!
Now I like the sound of “new material and further reissueS on the horizon”. New material is something we’ve been waiting for since the new single came out back in 2017. Can’t wait for a ‘Seeds of Love’ boxset hoping there will be more demos in the vein of ‘My Life in the Suicide Ranks’. But I’m also definitely counting on an ‘Elemental’ and a ‘Raoul and the Kings of Spain’ box-set. Although, Paul, I would assume you would have been involved in those two as well and you haven’t mentioned anything about them or are you in the process to collaborate on those too and haven’t told us yet?
OK, wrong post topic, I know Paul, but here’s an e.mail I’ve received from Rhino Records (Rhino.com store) this morning and there are still a few hours for our USA friends to take advantage of 20% off and free postage:
“Round out that record collection with a little help from your friends here at Rhino. Take 20% off* nearly everything in the Rhino.com store and free domestic shipping from Friday, February 14th through Monday, February 17th.
*Some exclusions may apply. Offer valid until 11:59pm PT, Monday, February 17th. Offer applied in cart. Offer applies to U.S. store only”.
Sold out almost a month in advance of release. I certainly hope they’ll press more.
Here’s my thoughts on some of the issues coming up on this thread, specifically the enigma of the Seeds of Love box set and the (un)availability of the reissue of the first two box sets.
Let me preface this by saying I’m a huge TFF fan, I love ALL the albums but I’m not a completist who owns every single on every format.
So… As someone who owns both the Hurting and SFTBC box sets already I’m going to court controversy and say I probably would NOT jump on a Seeds of Love box set…
Here’s why: to the best of my knowledge almost all period B-sides are covered by the 1999 expanded reissue of TSOL and the Saturnine Martial and Lunatic rarities comp (with some crossover) except for “Ghost Papa” from the 2nd 12” of Woman in Chains.
To the best of my knowledge there are no period radio sessions…?
The Going to California concert is included with the Scenes from the Big Chair DVD.
So with the the exception of a few single edits I have almost everything from the period rounded up as detailed above. Please let me know if I’m overlooking anything significant.
BUT… If it contained the scrapped earlier version of the album then I’d be at the front of the line for a copy! Paul: any inside info on whether we’ll get that?
As for the reissued box sets selling out so fast, I find this interesting because I picked up my Hurting box set brand new on Amazon for a regular price a good 2 or 3 years after it was released back in 2013 (after I found out there was a Peel Session on it, still kind of hard to believe they recorded one!).
It feels to me that websites like Superdeluxeedition are nurturing a bigger market / demand for box sets today, and perhaps the original releases of these box sets were aimed solely at absolute diehard TFF fans?
Or possibly it’s come around to an era where the “typical TFF fan” is at the age where they want to own nice deluxe box sets of their favorite albums (whereas they weren’t quite in that zone back in 2013)?
I have to respect the confidences of Universal and colleagues who I worked on the box set with, but I guarantee you you will want the Seeds box when it comes out!
Paul, your reply is loaded with promise! Anticipation just shot up for me.
I always remember the fascinating Q interview with TFF in the Sep ’89 issue and TSOL seemed such a difficult birth, see Badman’s Song too. I have always thought we would be unlikely to see the earlier versions, as if they werent good enough to release then – why would they be released now? But.. enigmatic comments are always good and it would be very honest of the band to allow them out.
I think they scrapped material because they didn’t want to make Songs from the Big Chair Part Two, plus the pressure to follow up an album as big as that probably means anything you write or record is going to seem weak in comparison. I image if the abandoned tracks were more synth / effects based they would sound great today. I think TFF are hard to please, they famously don’t like “The Way You Are” which I think is absolutely fantastic, and in the recent documentary Roland says he isn’t that keen on “Mother’s Talk” but I’m sure 1000’s of TFF fans would say the opposite. (By the way, while I’m here and on the subject: does anyone else think the end section of Jimmy Eat World’s “Lucky Denver Mint” is essentially the end section of “Mothers Talk”…? I mean that in a good way!)
Great work Paul. TFF
Has this come and gone already? It says it’s unavailable on all the Amazon sites.
I have to say I’m pretty angry that these are sold out again…Amazon UK won’t ship to Australia and they never got a pre-sale on the Amazon Australia site…what’s the point if part of the world can’t get access to things when they’re announced on pre-sale? I wanted The Hurting box (I have the SFTBC box) The SDE shop was an option but that’s not one anymore. I used to buy alot of product from Amazon UK…now I’m left shut out. TFF have a global fanbase but this pre-sale sell out nonsense looks to have potentially left an entire fan base shut out here. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Still available to pre-order on udiscovermusic.com at £37.99 and £45.99. More expensive than Paul was selling them for but if you missed out…
Thank you!!! All amazons were sold out already!
Sold out there now too!
I can’t believe how many people missed out on buying these box sets first time round. It begs the question what other box sets from Universal could do with a reissue?
Looking at Amazon, the first three Simple Minds box sets with the 5.1 surround disc are only available from secondary sites.
The Jam Live box set ‘Fire And Skill’ is another that sells for a pretty penny.
Anything else?
Crises by Mike Oldfield is similar sized boxset to the two TFF ones and that regularly goes for £150+ That would be a good reissue.
I was lucky enough to get it on pre-order.
As Someone else said, these are excellent news as this is probably the appetizer for the STSOL box set. Since these boxes were both out of print, it makes sense to reissue them before the new release. And I am confident STSOL will have a release. On the other hand, I am happy Universal has just reissued them and not expande them.
I agree. I’ve been a TFF fan since 1985 or so, but at the time these boxes came out, I was quite busy – changing industries, cities, getting married, etc. Fast forward a few years and I’d missed out. I bought the 2-CD version to get the main album and various edits / 12″-ers, and hunted for the box via eBay and Amazon. (In fact in January I’d made an offer to someone on eBay for the Songs box set for $150 USD….and was declined.)
I got home from work this week and saw the SDE e-mail about both made available again. Ordered both from the SDE shop immediately; don’t really “need” the Hurting box, but I’m buying the Seeds box whenever it comes out as well, so…a set. And as sort of thank you to SDE.
Thank you Paul – this near-completist appreciates all your efforts over the years!
Thanks!
I’m listening to the super deluxe set on TIDAL, and I’m surprised that the single remix of “Head Over Heels” has the channels reversed. As Paul posted earlier, they were careful about presenting the correct stereo configuration for the album as it has been incorrect on both the original LP pressing and the MFSL gold disc. At about the 2:40 mark, the album version has the drums panning left (going down from high toms to low), but on the single remix, it’s the other way around.
Damn!!!!! I missed out on The Hurting boxset again!!!! That’ll teach me. I guess, considering how fast it shifted, there might be another chance?
Sign up to the SDE shop mailing list, because we’ve had a few cancellations so I think we’ll have some extras come March 13th. People on the list will get first notification of this > https://manage.kmail-lists.com/subscriptions/subscribe?a=H3pGub&g=NmUDAx
Paul, I’m on the mailing list but I’ve never received a single email from the store (and I check my junk regularly too). Get them from the main site though.
Can’t resubscribe as my email is already on the database but I really want SFTBC.
Could you maybe post on here if you get more stock or something?
Too many people griping about this re-release. Obviously there were, and probably still are, many fans who did not have these yet wanted them, as they’ve sold out yet again. I managed to get them first time around, and I’m ever so slightly disappointed that I overpaid for the Hurting boxset back then. But, then again, I’ve been able to enjoy it all of this time.
As for forthcoming deluxe releases, I’d be happy with any of the other 4 albums. I’ve read somewhere a 2 disc version of Elemental has been in the can for some time. Getting upset about the tSoL SDE non-release is a waste of time. It’ll come out eventually, and when it does, great. There’s plenty of other things to enjoy in the meanwhile.
Watched the programme last night with my wife who was surprisingly interested as she remembered the album from our youth….in modern style she download from Spotify as she had forgotten how good they were….only for me to be confronted with “why all these extra songs…I don’t need that crap….I just want the album”…..seems I am still alone with liking that “extra crap”…..
Ha! Well we already have ‘the album’. No point in reissuing it if there isn’t ‘extra crap’ to enjoy!!
Oh for god’s sake sold out already. Why can’t they just release enough copies? I’m destined never to own this :(
Got them on record store. Co.uk
46.00 plus postage just pre ordered. It it comes back on amazon at 37.99 i will just cancel other one.
Quadrupled in price on EBay.
Out of order sellers!
A very interesting hour it was too! Can’t believe Roland doesn’t like “Mother’s Talk”. It’s brilliant & way way better than that slab of boring drive time that was the big hit & easy playlist fodder for every radio station around the world where the advertisers seem to control the playlist! Anyway, 7 great songs, one shite one! Can’t complain overall. But why only 8 songs on it?
my 2 cents, the reissue of the 2 boxes is a taster for Sowing the Seeds, as would assume the band want fans to have all 3 boxes, and for fans who missed out last time. Defo think Sowing is coming up
While I appreciate the fact that TfF are re-releasing these boxes, March is going to have me in the poor house (or living on bread and water for the foreseeable). Already on pre-order for March I have:-
Toyah Solo
Donna Summer Encore
Heaven 17 CD box
Abba Live 3 LP
His Dark Materials 9LP
And I expect the 27 disc 4K/BD Star Wars mega box to land in March as well.
Something’s gotta give. The question is, which of these items will still be around (affordably) in six months time?
Very disappointing. Seems like the band is out of touch with what the true fans really want. These boxes are great but most/many fans have them already! WHY can they not release the SOL box?? I’m losing interest quite honestly.
Away, but managed to watch this from off-Island…
…Amazed by the references to other artists – Tslking Heads and Robert Wyatt, for example.
If I may personalise this, I “Ran The World” through Hyde Park on the charity run. For a few minutes with Sting and Bob Geldof, until it was suggested I shouldn’t.
Anyway, when I returned to the London hotel, the lovely barman spotted that my nylon shorts hadn’t helped by cause, so paraded me (and my bleeding legs) to “encourage” residents and punters etc. to sponsor ne.
I wonder if Universal are gauging potential demand for the TSoL box with the reissue of the Hurting and SftBC boxes? The numbers of the two runs together would indicate a minimum of what might be sold of TSoL.
One can only hope.
Imagine how many thousands more of SFTBC (and The Hurting) they would have sold today if Amazon still had a live order page to go with the hour long advert on BBC4 tonight. I’m no marketing man but this seems particularly mad to me. Does Universal not like profit? Why are they limiting availability so drastically?
I agree with that, just watched the programme and very
Good it was to!, definitely a strange decision not to flood the market as they would have sold a few more for sure after that, on the other side of the coin the casual will want the album only I guess and not all the extra stuff, we diehards crave!.
“Why are they limiting availability so drastically?”
The standard edition of Songs From the Big Chair is the #1 seller on Amazon.
Looks like there might be an error with the headline – Tears for Fears Boxsets sold out again !
Ive gone from excited about the sde ttf releases, to disapointed (that seeds was taking so long) to anoyed, knowing the seeds sde has been sitting in the can for so long, to unable to listen to ttf without being distracted by what a cluster they have made of managing their catalogue… on to something less frustrating!
I beg to differ. Yes, the wait for Seeds is annoying (tell me about it, I worked on it in 2015) but the first two box sets – and ‘Songs’ especially – set a great example in terms of how you reissue an album from your back catalogue. SFTBC was available as a 4CD+2DVD set, a black vinyl, a 2CD, a blu-ray audio, a limited Steven Wilson Mix vinyl… and the box set had just about everything you could possibly want.
Are they sold out on Amazon or have they just pulled it off the now. As picture and everything has disappeared.
No idea to be honest… but everything is limited. I guess it could all come back.
I will give you that Chris. The first two box sets were as good as it gets. I guess it’s my OCD kicking in. I have this itch i need to scratch – ie complete the collection. AND THEY JUST WON’T LET ME. It is for this reason i much prefer campaigns with tighter time lines – simple minds 2002, blondie 2002, the police 2003, the beatles 2009… I expect when they do finally release the seeds box all will be forgiven/forgotten and i’ll be like a kids on christmas morning though!
I completely agree with you that the 2 box sets released are perfect. I’ve paid way too much to own these :-(, but the quality is very good. But do you know why one of the best albums ever made (in my opinion) is still not released as a box? I would love to hear the original takes that were scratched. The 1989 interview in Q was puzzeling. There must be so much material in the vault, 4 years in the making of this very great album…
To have two, pretty much, definitive SDE releases for their first two albums is remarkable. I can’t think of another artist or group that has two such 99% perfect boxes. I can imagine fans of many other artists would love 10 discs worth of material at such brilliant price points. Imagine having The Kick Inside and Lionheart is such depth for £40 each!
Yes, it’s all a bit Jim Bowen with The Seeds of love. It’s the fact that the bloody thing has been sitting in a warehouse, manufactured, for at least 4 years that is the problem. If we didn’t know that then what TFF (and Paul) have given us is better than anything else out there.
“Let’s have a look at what you could have won… its 6 discs, it’s 5.1, it sounds beautiful and it’s £40. Never mind, take it away boys”
Liking the Bowen analogy… although I can tell you they definitely haven’t been manufactured, sitting around.
Dumb thing for me to say, guilty as charged. Mind you imagine the killing to be made if some entrepreneurial warehouseman has wandered off with a box of 100 if they were…..
Well said!
You can still get them at recordstore.co.uk.
brilliant find thank you
Does anyone know if Roland,still plays his walnut Stratocaster (the strat),with gold Hardwear from 1982,when they play live,i remember him playing it on a TV show years ago, only other person iv seen with one is John smith,the late guitarist with glasgow band scheme,this is the same guitar Lennon has,in the inside cover of the j.l.collection,his is candy apple red,fender had just sent him it,
An they’re sold out again! Amazing. I wonder what the hell is the issue with Seeds (and even The Tipping Point), as the demand for TFF is obviously there.
WOW! So glad I got mine both ordered from Amazon yesterday. I missed these the first time around, and have a (ahem) copy of the CDs. Happy to now finally get my hands on the real thing … assuming all orders get fulfilled!
Thank goodness I got the preorder in for the SGTBC box reissue when I did…looks like it sold out, then copies again some more…now gone again…missed it first time around…and THEN it was double the price I am paying now…then for years, it was always around $170US!! Good thing I did not bite the bullet then either…I guess timing is everything huh?? Now PLEASE bring on that freaking Seeds box for crying out loud!! Too long of a wait…speaking of…Break It Down Again is on at a local Dunkin…nice way to start the day!!
Both boxes are now currently unavailable at Amazon UK. Glad I got my order placed on both boxes.
Yes glad i got my order in with amazon when i did! 69 pound for both with auto rip! I’m happy!!!
As at 10.30 am, sold out on Amazon.co.uk. Be interesting to see if they list more, or can manage to fulfil orders (they don’t seem to be great at managing stock levels IMHO)
Does anyone know who the child is on the cover of the hurting?
Thought it was Roland’s younger sister??? Or I am remembering this way wrong?
The kid on the cover of The Hurting (and originally the Suffer The Children sleeve from 1981) was a local kid called Gebby. Not sure if or how he was connected to the band.
Wow! I’m glad I secured myself a copy of each album super deluxe before the copies were sold out! I ordered from the SDE shop because, at the time, it seemed as if that was the only site that was offering it at the lowest price. Thanks, Paul; I’ll be looking for further news about the third album, perhaps?
Cheers Kevin.
Missed out on “The Hurting” box the first time around. Sorry, I missed your pre-order, but I did manage to do so at Amazon.uk. I’m sure sometimes you get tired of the endless TSOL box questions, your blurb at the end is very encouraging. Glad I read your site on a regular basis.
Wayne
I missed out on The Hurting first time around so this is good news for me! Urged me to search for some TFF releases that I do not have in my collection (Secret World CD/DVD and Everybody Loves A Happy Ending (2CD France Pressing). I only have the Promo of the latter and SW is completely new for me!
I did um and rrr too long and then saw that SDE shop is presently out of stock so I had to go elsewhere for my Hurting Box Set. Incidentally, If you order the Box Sets from Amazon you get the FREE AUDIO AUTORIP of the box sets NOW! You don’t have to wait until release date in March.
Is it possible Paul to have the ‘leave a reply’ comment section at the top instead of the bottom? Cheers.
Just a word of warning regarding Everybody Loves A Happy Ending. The sound on it is terrible due to brickwalling.
It’s 4:45pm EST, just ordered the SFTBC box, NOT sold out…no problem…I have the Hurting box, and being it’s the same thing coming out again…no vidclips added to the DVD (although they should have or made a second DVD with those clips) so no need to reorder the box…and I will order the SDE booklet in a week or so Paul…and keeping my fingers crossed regarding that long delayed Seeds box…and more…
The Hurting no 5.1 either.
Shame.
Paul,
I suppose the band aren’t taking suggestions for new archival releases, but let me put this out there anyway.
In the documentary Scenes From The Big Chair, we are treated to some fantastic footage of he band playing live at Massey Hall in Toronto. This footage, which looks like it was filmed (I’d guess in 16mm) is electric, in front of an enthusiastic audience, with the boys (and Nicky) playing their new songs that are taking over the globe. And crucially, it is captured well on the video. It’s simply exhilarating.
Dare I say if this entire concert were put back together, rescanned in HD, with a Bob Clearmountain audio mix, we’d have the definitive live Tears For Fears release. All of the elements are there.
And it would contrast sharply with Live At Hammersmith, Going To California and Secret World Live, all of which are marred by dated video effects that detract from the performances.
Pass this on to Roland and Curt if you don’t mind :-)
No 1 & 2 bestselling items in the Amazon Boxset chart right now. Looks like demand is pretty high, especially at those prices so I’ll be interested to see when they run out of stock & if there are further stock runs to keep up with obvious demand. Incredible really considering the band are hardly prolific, they frustrate their fans continually yet here we all are, 30+ years later after their releases excited! For one, I can’t wait to peruse “The Hurting” when it arrives as the content looks great & it takes me right back to Autumn 1982.
The music is vintage, but the themes are timeless, actually the emo-wave themes in The Hurting are probably more relevant today than they were in 1983. The retro futurist sound definitely nods to this era as well, just listen to the new Tame Impala record and hear echoes of Tears for Fears reverberate.
SG – You’re right. It does resonate strongly today. I actually bought the reissue with the 12″ versions on from FNAC for 5 Euro’s & was wowed by how great it sounded. I stupidly dithered for a day & by the time I decided to buy the box, Paul sold out but luckily Amazon had it. Phew !
Would be interesting to find out how limited these
set are I’m Glad I secured a copy on here ( about time I bought something from here ), but on Amazon it shows as number 8 in all sales of music and No 1 in box sets?. That leads me to conclude that they will make enough to satisfy the obvious demand for it at this time?. Any thoughts Paul on how limited it is or may have been?. Obviously if there is demand Universal would be foolish to say 5,000 that’s it?.
My understanding is there’s probably only a few thousand of each box (2-3k). Don’t think they’ve made anything like 5k
Now to something completely different, signed Paul Young CD/ DVD was delivered today in Florida. Thank you, Sir. Much appreciated. Now if I’d only still have a record player that orange No Parlez vinyl would grace my home, too. Ta. Peace.
Perfect timing. Enjoy!
Would love to purchase, but sadly seems I’ve missed it. Any chance of more stock?
Just brilliant
I love Both albums.
Great to see these boxes reissued but WHERE is the superdeluxe version of Sowing the Seeds – there must be a trove of material – it was a big budget album, after all.
Have been waiting, first patiently, but lately, increasingly impatiently, for the TSoL SDE. Was hoping the news would be for that but again its same old, same old. Happy for those who missed them first time around, but I will have to wait longer and hope that the “further reissues” will include the TSoL SDE.
If they’ve confirmed ‘further reissues’ then call me Mr Go-Out-On-A-Limb but it’s a pretty safe bet what’s coming next.
Fingers crossed. It was my favourite album of 1989 and is probably one of my favourite 10 of all time.
I think the prices won’t stay like that for much longer ?
Ordered them both of amazon as you’d sold out,£34 each.
Sold Out! Really?
Please Paul, bring more!
Re-post (as my comment at 2:10pm does not appear to have made it being published [yet]) for anybody that has missed out…
Although not available to purchase when you posted this article last night, Paul, Amazon (UK) have now updated their product pages with prices; stock available at the time of this comment (13 February 2020 at 2:10pm)
“The Hurting” £34.00 (with AutoRip):
https://amzn.to/31PF5p3
“Songs From The Big Chair” £35.99 (with AutoRip):
https://amzn.to/38r6xvA
No indication in either listing regarding limited quantities, though.
Didn’t think these would go so fast. Started to order from SDE shop last night but got sidetracked. Came back this morning and sold out!
Got an order in through JPC though, thankfully! Will be ordering the booklet though. How’s stock looking on those Paul?
No problem re Booklet!
sold out? whatt??
Ah bugger, got tied up at work yesterday and didn’t manage to order The Hurting then, and now it’s sold out! :-(
Will this be a straight re-press, seem to remember there was an issue with the live disc on SFTBC with some tracks being in the wrong order to what was on the cover? (have i remembered that right)?
Ordered from SDE yesterday afternoon with some excitement (and relief given how they’re flying off the shelves).
Treated myself as March is my birthday month
I love everything that Paul does the wealth of info is incredible…
I just couldn’t pass up this from the SDE shop so both boxsets bought and i continue to support Paul’s excellent SDE shop (bought stuff before)
Paul just a quick question are the stereo mixes and 5.1 in hi res format?
thanks for everything
Really excellent to see these two boxes back out again particularly Big Chair as I stupidly missed out on it first time around.
I was only looking at prices for this one on eBay last w/end. (£149 was the cheapest! Och!!)
Ordered Big Chair box and the booklet and looking forward to the Classic Albums show on BBC this Friday. Very reasonable prices as well methinks.Cheers Paul and thanx for having them in stock.
Phew, that was close. Thank you again Paul!! Like many others, never thought I would ever get a copy of SFTBC boxset.
Pity The Hurting doesn’t come with the promotional video clips, any idea why these weren’t included?
Geezer…a year or more ago, I asked Paul why the 3 vidclips were not included on the DVD of the Hurting box or even put on the Chair box as extras being the Hurting box was done & out…Paul curated them both…what he told me was that there was supposed to be some kind of singles/vidclips CD/DVD package with all singles & clips included alongside the Hurting box that did not include them…no need due to duplication then…turns out the CD/DVD never materialized & we have a Hurting box with no clips…with the reissued boxes, Universal could have righted this wrong by manufacturing bonus DVDs with the clips…sucks they didn’t…did I get your story right Paul??
Dear Paul,
Both TFF boxes sold out already?
Kind regards,
Gunther
Available again. Having spoken to Universal about stock, best advice is get your order in now because I had to fight to get the quantity needed. I think this reprint will be around for even less time that the original pressing.
Are you and Universal the only pre orders on this Paul?, would like to pre order but will have to wait having bought a considerable amount this month already!!, so I guess i will have to keep fingers crossed !!. Been after this for quite a while.
Not sure to be honest. I think JPC have some. But SDE will be sold out of the box sets in the next hour…
Ordered them both , My first order from your shop Paul couldn’t miss out on these , thanks.
Thanks Wayne!
Available again? It says still sold out….
It was available again, but now sold out again!!
Managed to order both through the SDE webshop this morning, luckily!
sold out already? OMG… how does one get these boxes?
Available again.
I bought The Hurting box (with the Change 7″) back in 2013 but about a year later saw it in Fopp for a fiver! So when the SFTBC box was announced I thought I’d wait for a similar price cut, which of course never came, in fact quite the opposite. So I’m very happy to see the SDE reissue.
Wow! I had fully accepted that these box sets might never be available again, but never bit the bullet and splurged on second hand copies. To see them up for grabs at reasonable prices has truly made my day – I’ve ordered both sets and the booklet from your site Paul, thanks as ever for all your hard work!
What remasters are used for the cd’s (not the 5.1) ? I read Steven Wilson did The Big Chair, correct? Did he also remaster The Hurting ? Both boxes have new (for 2013) remastering, right ?
Steven Wilson didn’t remaster The Hurting or Songs From The Big Chair. Peter Mew did The Hurting and Andrew Walter did Songs. SW did REMIX Songs in stereo and 5.1 but that’s it.
Excellent news. The ‘Songs….’ boxset has been on my wishlist on discogs dot com for a few years, so I am glad I waited (which has saved me spending 100+ pounds on it). Thank you, as ever, Mr Sinclair.
They also have it at udiscover store
https://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/*/The-Hurting-3CD-1DVD/6E1O0000000;jsessionid=572A8DFA85956120601A7EAC07A5AB03.t3
and
https://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/*/Songs-From-The-Big-Chair-4CD-2DVD/6E1M0000000
but the shipping turns out to be more, so still SDE has the cheapest price for both of these albums
Thanks for the links, Jonathan – I just missed out getting one in time on SDE but managed to snag a Hurting box there :-)
(Sorry Paul, you were my first choice :-) )
Excellent, got The Hurting box.
Super happy. Ordered The Hurting. Was too late with the initial release.
Looking at the comments you will be busy Paul.
Just ordered the Picture Disc and the booklet. The Picture Disc is the sixth version I buy of this album:
Original Vinyl, original CD, Bonus Tracks CD, Deluxe CD, Boxset and now the Picture Disc (+ I managed to get a promo with 5 tracks -original 7″ versions in a second hand store)
The booklet was a must-have as Ihave some of the others (e.g. Heaven 17)
Nice that they didn’t add the odd extra track to the boxes, so that I don’t have to bother about buying them again.
What is with the pictures of the box sets with the SDE web site address? Can we get the same pics without them?
What?
I think they’re referring to the watermark on some of the photos above.
Oh. Those photos – that I took – date from 2014. I don’t really do this much these days, but hey, my photos, my prerogative!
Out of all of this, I was hoping that they would re-press the remixed vinyl for SFTBC, I missed that one last time.
How limited are these boxes Paul? Because as much as I would LOVE to order them from SDE Shop, I can’t afford to pay upfront right now. Maybe in a few weeks.
I think you should be okay, but we’ve sold a lot. Going talk to Universal sales later and see what I can find out.
Thank you – I did place an order but had to cancel (damn food and rent! LOL), so I hope they’re still there in 2 weeks. :)
Wow, what a great deal, love to have both box sets but unfortunately, shipping to Canada is almost $50 Canadian which is almost the same price as The Hurting box…sorry but shipping costs are way to expensive.
If it would not be February 12th then I would think this is an April Fools joke – re-issuing previous SDEs while we are waiting for 5 years for an already finished product to be released eventually. To me this is crazy. I happen to owe both SDEs already and can totally understand that others do not (yet) so I am happy for those to get another chance. But still, it feels like a slap in the face of the long time fan and consumer to milk the cow twice or three times or four times.
I stand by my joke comment – whats next an Elemental SDE…. Mark my words. Not sure who is to blame in that whole TfF Marketing Fiasco…. maybe bad vibes in general.
I would love to have the booklet in a smaller version. One that I can actually slide in the SFTBC SDE Box. Maybe a re-issue for the 30th anniversary single disc re-release of “Tears Roll Down” in 2022. Peace.
This is fantastic news! Like others, I missed out of these SDEs the first time around. Thank you Paul – have just ordered both boxes and the booklet through the SDE shop. Excellent and easy ordering process and payment via PayPal as well – great stuff.
Thanks
I can’t stress how amazing the 5.1 mix of Big Chair is for anyone still on the fence. It equals the amazing job done for the Genesis 5.1 mixes for the 2008 remasters for a comparison. Still hoping the same team does a mix for The Hurting at some point for a stand alone release but either way, get this while you can party people, its worth the price of admission on its own.
Agree 150% – the blu ray 5.1 is one of the most stunning 5.1 mixes I own.
Really disagree about the 5.1. Thankfully it’s only a minor part of the box content.
This is great news indeed. I just ordered SFTBC super deluxe from SDE. Thanks for such a great website! It’s now become a daily must-read for me.
I’m with Mike the Fish (how does he type?). I only ever listened to the 5.1 once and thought it just sounded like my AV amp doing that pseudo surround thing AV amps do with a normal CD. Nothing about it made go wow.
Detonation in 5.1 on To The Bone is excellent so I know SW can do better.
Always been a big fan of TFF and saw them last year in Mainz, Germany at the Zitadelle where they were fantastic…ordered both boxes and the booklet straight away from your shop! Enjoying your webpage for quite a while now…always a pleasure! So please keep on the excellent work…
Thanks very much Andreas
feeling a bit ripped off.
https://thesoundofvinyl.com/*/*/Songs-From-The-Big-Chair-Limited-Edition-Picture-Disc/6E1J0000000
Their Hurting box set is more expensive, so it’s swings and roundabouts. No independent retailer can sell the picture disc at that price, by the way. They’d make a loss.
Both of these box sets passed me by first time round. Always keeping an eye on the resell prices and hoping to get them at a decent price, this is a no brainer.
Both sets and the booklet ordered. Cost of postage is decent too.
Thanks Paul.
Cheers!
Aaaah… that’s why I got no reply to my question of a re-release in your previous “celebration” post ;o)
Already bought both boxes first time round, booklet now duly ordered. ( And while visiting the SDE Shop I also placed an order for the Cat Stevens purple vinyl… ) Thank you Paul!
Great news for all the Tears For Fears fans out there (or in here)… and imagine if an endeavour like this could be replicated for some of those Jethro Tull boxsets that have become next-to-impossible to find (or, if found, prepare to spend lots of $$$ or £££ or €€€).
I’d love for those Tull sets to be reissued.
Seeing as I missed “The Hurting” first time around I’ve pre-ordered form the SDE. I’m puzzled why they didn’t want Saxophone as Opiates on it, it’s a great alternative mix of that song. I’ve got SFTBC deluxe which was perfect. Other than that, what everyone really wanted was The Seeds Of Love boxset, and now I really do want that in an identically sized boxed to complete the triliogy:
The Seeds Of Love (8 track album remastered)
Associated B-sides and edited/full versions of all singles (inc Johnny Panic Fluke mixes) and Laid So Low in 1992.
The mystical first version of the album scrapped around 1987, That would be the most interesting disc.
All the videos (originally released on VHS as “Sowing The Seeds”)
A SOL Documentary?
California show which was on VHS in 1990.
The ‘Going To California’ live concert was released on the EU ‘Scenes From The Big Chair’ DVD and is in NTSC.
https://www.discogs.com/Tears-For-Fears-Scenes-From-The-Big-Chair/release/1446999
A 64-page companion book to the album, entitled Tears for Fears – The Seeds of Love, was also released in 1990 by Virgin Books and offers insight into the writing and recording process behind the album as well as the sheet music for each song and rare promotional photographs from the period.
I’ve tried locate a copy of this, but i can’t seem to find one. hopefully it may get reprinted.
Will the fire at the Appolo Mastering lacquer plant last week in California restrict the availability of the vinyl picture disc? All reports i have read so far believe it will be a major blow to the vinyl resurgence. I emailed Superdeluxeedition the information but it has not been mentioned in a posting.
I suspect that they will press a few in Europe. It wouldn’t make sense concentrating the entire print run on one plant.
The lacquers are the acetates used for the initial cut that goes into the process to produce stampers. It’s not relevant to pressing quantities once the master has been cut, which I expect has already been done. Also, there’s still DMM mastering for vinyl.
Bought the boxsets first time around and fell victim to the debacle surrounding the remixed vinyl release which I ordered from Universal but then they seemed to pull the release.
Luckily Paul stepped in and somehow managed to get me a copy (I’m still not really sure what happened there but I am very grateful).
Ordered the booklet because I have really loved the quality (and content) of the other ones I ordered.
Thanks again Paul!
Thanks!
Note for any band / label planning on doing a big reissue of an album, this SDE of “SOTBC” is the way to go, everything you want pretty much from the time, 5.1 mix, 12” versions, a documentary, TV & a concert done in a well presented box with great well done comprehensive sleeve notes. Absolutely perfect & content wise, one of the best SDE’s I have ever bought & it sounds brilliant. I missed “The Hurting” one & was’nt willing to spend stupid money on it and am gonna think seriously about it.
Wow, been waiting for a cheap deluxe set of Songs for a long time. Ordered both with the booklet.
Thanks Andy
Have the 2 sets already but ordered the booklet as they’re always worthwhile. Thanks Paul.
Cheers!
Thanks Mr Sinclair. Always regretted not buying these first time round. Over the moon they are being made available again. Have pre-ordered through the site.
Keep up the bloody good work. It’s
Yes yes yes yes yes YES!!!!
This idiot has been offered a chance at redemption…and he’s bloody taking it!
Heard rumours that these might be getting a reissue/repress, but couldn’t believe it. However it’s true and both Hurting and Big Chair now ordered from SDE’s shop. Very reasonable prices, too. They’ve been going for crazy money on the used/second-hand market and I couldn’t bring myself to cave in. Now I don’t have to!
EG.
Good price for the cd sets, ordered both. I didn’t take much notice the first time around and lumped them in with the ‘trendy’ chart acts, over the years my music snobbery reduced shall we say?!
Book ordered.
Already have the boxsets, blurays, etc.
The picture disc looks nice.
Thanks Paul
Thank you
Thanks. I just put my order via the The SDE Shop. From San Antonio, TX.
Got to have this, I only have the respective Blu-rays.
Thanks!
Are the 5.1 and Stereo Mixes the exact same as the ones released on the 2014 Blu Ray Pure Audio disc?
Yes
So my patience for the Hurting box to come back into print has paid off…ordered immediately! Thanks PS!
Cheers!
Both boxes are highly recommended. The additional discs in The Hurting box get regularly played. Lots of value there to explore in those songs. The 5.1 mix of Big Chair is phenomenal, one of my favourite surround sound mixes.
Slightly off topic, but thinking about reissued SDEs now out of orkney, is there any more word on possible reissue of first Go Betwens box?
Glad they’ve mentioned that new material and further reissues are on the horizon. Love the SFTBC super deluxe, highly recommended :-)
Sorry in case this is a stupid question.
Is there a difference/benefit in shipping between “standard” or “signed and tracked”. Let’s say package gets damaged as an example.
The second one is more secure, item less likely to get lost, you know where it is… etc. Packing is the same (excellent).
Brilliant news and thanks Paul! Ordered The Hurting and the SDE booklet..already got the SFTBC box set so this is a perfect addition for me.
Thanks Paul
Ordered both sets, thanks Paul :)
Cheers
Ordered thanks for this. can you tell me if these sets are limited many thanks..
Yes. They are only doing a few thousand of each, I think.
Booklet ordered – looking forward to it – all the previous interview ones have been excellent.
Thanks Paul
SO EXCITED!!!! I ORDERED THEM ALL…BOTH SETS, THE BOOKLET and THE PICTURE DISC!! COULD NOT REFUSE!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
Haha Wow. Thanks Shannon :)
Both box sets ordered from SDE shop Paul. Over the moon these are back out missed them first time.
Thanks again for all the time and trouble for this site. Saved me (and cost me!) a fortune over the years
Appreciate the custom Neil. Thank YOU.
Just ordered the lot! Getting them shipped to ‘de Mammy’ as the shipping to Canada was a little high. So I’ll have to wait until Christmas when I’m back to pick them up.
Nice one Paul!
Lovely stuff. Thanks Brian!
Hello Paul
Love your site. First site checked in Brooklyn in the early am. Can you please direct me to what site shows your discount code or is it given when you sign up with a new account. just trying to save on shipment to USA. Thanks.
Also, do your readers know of the Big California fire that destroyed On Thursday morning (February 6), the Banning, CA building housing Apollo/Transco Masters’ factory and storage space burned. By far the biggest of the world’s two lacquer master disc manufacturers, most of the world’s vinyl mastering facilities (especially smaller ones) relied upon Apollo/Transco blanks, as well as their cutting styli for Westrex cutting heads. Ruled a total loss.
Some have suggested the Companies now focus on more cds and Superdeluxeedition. This portion came from Malachi Lui and Analog Planet. Vinyl will be set back in USA.
Cheers,
We don’t do discounts when you sign up I’m afraid! Sorry about that… I understand postage to US isn’t the cheapest, but we do our best. The SDE Shop is a bit of a cottage industry :)
How many pages is the booklet?
Probably 20 pages (not actually printed yet…).
How about more pages and sized to fit in the box (if there’s room?)? ;)
Also, has We Are Broken been reinstated or is it still Broken Revisited on CD2 of The Hurting?
Everything is identical!
Sorry Paul! I only saw that you’d already answered that question several times afterwards because of the upside down comments section. :-P
Seems odd that they’d not take the opportunity to fix it, though?
Is the DVD containing the 5.1 mix a DVD audio ?
Yes, I’m told everything is exactly the same!
Very disappointing. Already have both box sets, not interested in picture discs.
Nothing new here. I’m afraid I’m out
Both Box Sets and booklet ordered. Great Value Paul, Keep up the excellent work. Thanks, Peter.
Thanks a lot!
Super glad I never caved and spent crazy money on the Hurting box on eBay despite being tempted many times. I’ll be grabbing a copy of that. Incidentally, my copy of EWTRtW has a skipping error that I believe was in the authoring process during the song Pharaohs, anyone else have this issue ? The disc isn’t scratched as it was only played once just wondered if anyone else ran into this ?
Ooops meant Songs From the Big Chair, not sure why I abbreviated the hit single as the album title yikes must be losing it …
How come no LP of the Steven Wilson remix?
Thanks Paul, you have an order in your SDE Shop inbox.
Much obliged. Thanks Dave.
Now I’m curious (not complaining)…Why didn’t they want Saxophones as Opiates included? :-)
They think it’s shit, basically :)
I think it’s interesting, but having it in the middle of a disc could be a bit off-putting… strange track!
It was a bit frustrating for the sake of completeness, not to be able to include it. They okay’d ‘Wino’ :)
Why was there no SW remix done for The Hurting?
Hi Paul, Lovely to see re pressed.
Can I check, is this a straight repressing, no different p and c dates etc?
Yes, straight repressing.
Paul… the timing of the live tracks on SFTBC CD 4 is still incorrect, even after so many years… LOL!
This would be correct:
05. BROKEN / HEAD OVER HEELS : 7:31 Live At Massey Hall
06. MEMORIES FADE : 5:01 Live At Massey Hall
07. THE WORKING HOUR : 6:50 Live At Massey Hall
Basically just switched around.
Also, does it mean anything that disc 2 of the Hurting seems to have a different picture sleeve? Why is it shown like that on the packshot?
Anyway, GREAT that these great sets are being reprinted. I was very sad for those who missed out.
I’m thinking about ordering the booklet: the reason why I have not used the SDE store so far is because I didn’t like the payment options, but I’ll have to reconsider that.
That packshot must have been done early. I advised them to change disc 2 to the US cover for The Hurting, which they duly did, but the packshot was never updated, it seems!
Hell yes! I missed out on the super deluxe of The Hurting and had no expectation of landing a copy (for sane money).
This reissue is definitely happy news for me.
Brilliant! Got the ‘Chair’ set a while after its original release it went down to a good price and was all over eBay for a week then just vanished. I never was in time for the Hurting SDL, so really, really pleased to find it for £36, and have ordered from the SDE shop along with the souvenir booklet, amazing, thanks! Just hoping that ‘Seeds’ will now see the same boxed treatment coming in from the horizon.
Cheers!
Both ordered & booklet
Thanks Mark!
Hi paul do you or anybody know if the original version of we are broken is avalible on cd? many thanks
You can find it here :)
https://www.discogs.com/Tears-For-Fears-Mad-World-The-Collection/master/1244001
As far as I know, it’s only ever been released on a very hard to find CD called “Tears Laid Low: A Tears for Fears Alter Collection”. Other compilations claim to have “We are Broken” but it’s actually the later “Broken Revisited” mix simply without the intro.
Some kind of compendium compilation including this, the original “Ideas as Opiates”, perhaps also the unfaded “I Believe” and “Broken/Head over Heels” versions, the Mancrab single and some other odds & ends would be a nice gesture to the fans.
I’m not a specialist for TFF but after looking it up on Discogs it seems to me that “Broken Revisited” (available on the SDE of “The Hurting” is the LONGER version of the track “We Are Broken” that was originally released as a 7″ and 12″ flipside to “Pale Shelter”.
Looking at the duration of the tracks i assume that this version is not only included on the Canadian promo-only release of “Tears Laid Low” (as Jules claims) but also on the two compilations “Mad World-The Collection” (as Sith wrote) and “Famous Last Words-The Collection” as well.
Maybe some TFF-afficionado can clear up the confusion?
Two fantastic box sets. This is the way to do it. Great price from SDE as well. Ordered.
Is any chance of getting the booklet signed by Roland and Curt like you did with Roxy, Heaven 17 ones?
I’m afraid not :(
Hey Paul, will you be shipping to the States and do you recommend to place the order for Hurting SDE box, the Songs LP and the booklet in the same order? Thanks!
Yes, and yes, makes sense to keep in one order. Thanks P
so what is the delivery time generally for the tracked royal mail international shipping to the States
Varies. Probably 5 working days on average, I think.
Bummer. I was hoping for the a-ha treatment with the re-release of the sde w/o the DVD but super cheap. Guess I’ll be saving my money. :-(
Excellent news – I had given up on getting The Hurting box set. Still a shame it didn’t come with a 5.1 mix, although my amp does a pretty decent job of upmixing from stereo.
Thanks for carrying this.
I can’t see buying these box sets again just to get the new booklet, but if you were to take these booklets and expand on them and turn them into a full in-depth book about these two albums I’d buy that in a heartbeat.
You don’t have to buy the boxes to get the booklet..(?)
Ordered both. Amazing price difference between SDE shop and other outlets! Thanks.
@Shawn C.:
The difference in price has to do with Amazon not yet listing the re-releases, so they’re only available via 3rd party sellers (who have to rethink their pricing soon ;-)) )
jpc.de already lists them for pre-order:
The Hurting SDE EUR 48
SFTBC SDE EUR 61
SFTBC Pic. Disc EUR 32
SDE booklet not available ;-)
I missed out when they were available the first time but managed to get VG+ copies of both for reasonable prices (around EUR 60 each) second hand.
Of course i’m already asking myself if i do need them shrinkwrapped in mint condition too :))
Oh ffs, I missed out on this (the hurting box set) originally, I tried everywhere, kept just missing out on auctions on ebay ect, I eventually caved in and bought it for £100 on Discogs and now it gets reissued?????, thank god I have a sense of humour and can laugh about it!!!….. But deep inside I’m crying my bloody eyes out lol
I know exactly what you mean. Great news for those who missed out first time though. Any releases that are clearly limited and sold as such should, in my opinion never be re released. Especially in exact same format. The Gentle Giant box set springs to mind.
I am glad they do a second run for the “Gentle Giant”-box as they massively underestimated the demand for this.
First run was sold out about a week after release and prices of “used” units of it soon rocketed skywards.
I missed it out too and was pleasantly surprised when i learned on the Burning Shed-site that they’ll do a second run.
In the end i think that it will become a much sought-after collectors item even if there are now 1.000 more copies of it on the market.
So… in order to understand quickly: the real “new” stuff are the picture disc and the Chair box set with new SW remastering and the new BBC documentary, while the Hurting one it’s identical to the one alteady released. Correct?
No, both boxes are identical to what came out before (there is no ‘new SW remastering’). The new things are picture disc and the exclusive SDE booklet.
still a very well priced SDE, I applaud all for making it re-available to people who missed out the first time.
Still got both box sets sealed from new, might be worth getting a couple more!
Thanks Paul – ordered both via the SDE shop. I missed these the first time round and ultimately regretted it so this is great news as far as I’m concerned.
Cheers!
Will the dvds be region free / playable in the usa ?
I can confirm that all the DVDs are NTSC, region free (I’ve just checked mine).
Thank you sir. Ordering both right now.
How limited will the picture vinyl be? Just curious if there was a certain amount produced. Pre ordered a copy right off the back. Can’t wait to get it. Thanks Paul.
Not sure, but don’t expect these reprints of the box sets to last forever, because I don’t think the run is that big (a few thousand is what I’m hearing).
Why was Saxophones As Opiates not included? How can I pay if I would order from the SDE store? Is Paypal an option? SOTBC is probably the album I own the most (4 different releases).
Paypal, credit card etc. The usual. The band specifically said we couldn’t put Saxophones As Opiates on the box set!
Will these box sets be available on Amazon UK or other retailers for the people from countries that SDE shop doesn’t post to? That list is about 40-something countries, many are excluded
Good times! Already have Songs From the Big Chair on the original LP, original CD, several cd reissues, the super deluxe box set, the blu ray pure audio, the Japanese SHM-SACD, the limited blue-cover LP with the Steven Wilson remix… the new orange-coloured LP that just came out recently… Now the Picture LP is coming… Bring it on!!
Ordered the booklet! Thanks Paul. This is what could be reasonably expected. If they celebrate 35 yrs of Songs, they are not going to announce a Seeds SDE. We should all be happy the record company said Seeds and a new album are in the horizon. That’s hopeful. They could have said “no plan to release anything else this year”. That would be bad. So I revel in the fact that I can now buy the Hurting box which I somehow missed as well as the booklet.
Question: Checking out the pics, the booklet is not made to fit inside the box, correct?
Thank you. No, the booklet is A4-sized. P
Any chance of reissuing the Steven Wilson vinyl remix?
Very unlikely to happen.
Seems very reasonably priced for the amount you get in each box. Other artists take note. It doesn’t have to be around £100!
I’m a really very great fan of TFF. I’ve been collecting all singles, albuns variables and collections since 1985. I’ve been in several concerts. But that…I simply refuse to spend more money with that repeated kind of stuff. We long time fans know that there are a lot of unpublished materials from that time gap between SFTBC and TSOL that could be explored to cellebrate the 35 years of SFTBC and it would show that the band take the true fans in consideration. Paul, I know this is not your fault. I really appreciate your job and efforts to bring us something different but I’m sorry this “new” release is just more of the same again!!
Disappointed news……
Still waiting for SOL !!!
Particularly pleased to see The Hurting reissued, been trying to get that one for a few years now, only been available 2nd hand upwards of £200
Ordered both box sets Paul, and delighted to be supporting you rather than Amazon!
Thanks very much.
What about the Big Chair Blu Ray? Will that become available again too?
No it won’t.
Will there be a signed version of the keepsake available at some point Paul?.
Well, this one is signed by me :) There won’t be any future version signed by the band, sadly.
I get the feeling the SDE shop is going to be rather busy this afternoon.
Are the sde cd reprints exclusive to your online store pr will they get listed on amazon as well
I think they’ll end up on Amazon as well.
Paul, do you know if the box sets will be available on Amazon USA? I’m not seeing them show up there yet – and I’m worried about getting a UK version with PAL dvds…
Don’t know. But everything is identical, and I think these were all fine in the USA last time.
What a joke. Not even a mention of the Seeds boxed set. This is officially the most out of touch band in the planet.
Although I can imagine the answer to this question, Paul, do you know if the correct “dry” mix of “We Are Broken” is included in The Hurting box set this time?
Everything is identical, including the sticker with the wrong wording (!).
Oh, tempation! your name is SDE!
These releases came & went before I started buying boxsets, so I’m really glad to see these sets being reissued. Sure, the passage of a few years makes us wish the contents could be refreshed (including a Blu-Ray disc with all the content, 5.1 SW mix for The Hurting). OTOH, “identical reissue” has its own merit.
“Most out of touch band in the planet”? Oh, please. They’d have to get in line with so many others! No marbles or scarves in these boxes!
Paul, I haven’t bought from the SDE Shop before. Can you give a rough guesstimate of the shipping to the US?
If you bought both boxes and the booklet it’s £27 tracked and signed… I think. You can double check before you get to the end.
Nuno, I’ll see your ‘most out of touch band’ TFF and raise you a Duran Duran (and I’m a huge fan of both!) :-)
Haha… agreed.
Fair enough, Richard!
P.S.: At least DD releases an out-of-touch new album from time to time. :)