Ultravox / Vienna 40th anniversary

Ultravox / Vienna 40th anniversary reissue

5CD+DVD box with 5. 1 Steven Wilson mix • 2LP vinyl

Ultravox‘s 1980 album, Vienna, is to be reissued for its 40th anniversary as an extensive 5CD+DVD box set that includes a plethora of unreleased material and Steven Wilson stereo and 5.1 mixes. Vinyl formats also available.

Produced by Conny Plank, the album was the band’s first for Chrysalis and the first to feature Midge Ure on lead vocals. It originally peaked at number three in the UK album chart, with its title track famously thwarted from reaching the top of the singles chart by that song by Joe Dolce. ‘All Stood Still’, the final of four singles followed ‘Vienna’ into the top ten in June 1981.

Vienna 40th anniversary 5CD+DVD box set (click image to enlarge)

The six-disc box set features 66 tracks, 44 of which are previously unreleased recordings or mixes. It comprises the following

  • CD 1 – Original 1980 album (newly mastered from production tapes)
  • CD 2 – New Steven Wilson stereo mix of album and B-sides
  • CD 3 – A-sides, B-sides, 12-inch mixes and live tracks
  • CD 4 – Cassette rehearsals
  • CD 5 – Live from St. Albans 1980 (newly mixed)
  • DVD – 5.1 Steven Wilson mix (+ 24/96 hi-res stereo of new mixes) + B-sides. Also hi-res stereo of original album and original mixes of B-sides!

This 5CD+DVD comes packaged in a 12″ x 12″ rigid slipcase and includes a 20-page large format booklet featuring notes from the band, unseen photos from Midge Ure’s and Chris Cross’ personal collection, four A4 art prints.

There is also a half-speed mastered 2LP vinyl set that features the original album on the first LP and a bonus LP that includes a pick ‘n’ mix selection of single versions, B-sides and live cuts. It also features a US promo edit of ‘Vienna’, never commercially released, which is exclusive to this vinyl (i.e. not on the CD box).

The official Ultravox store also features an exclusive 4LP clear vinyl box set, which is the 2LP package plus ‘Live from St. Albans’ across two further LPs.

Vienna is reissued across all formats on 9 October 2020. The 5CD+DVD box and the 2LP are available via the SDE shop using this link.

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CD One: Vienna [Original 1980 Analog Master]

01. Astradyne
02. New Europeans
03. Private Lives
04. Passing Strangers
05. Sleepwalk
06. Mr. X
07. Western Promise
08. Vienna
09. All Stood Still

CD Two: Vienna [Steven Wilson Stereo Mix] *

01. Astradyne
02. New Europeans
03. Private Lives
04. Passing Strangers
05. Sleepwalk
06. Mr. X
07. Western Promise
08. Vienna
09. All Stood Still
10. Waiting
11. Passionate Reply
12. Alles Klar
13. Herr X

CD Three: Rarities: Singles/B-Sides/Live

01. Sleepwalk [Early Version]
02. Waiting
03. Face To Face [Live in St Albans 16/8/1980]
04. King’s Lead Hat [Live at The Lyceum 17/8/1980]
05. Vienna [Single Version]
06. Passionate Reply
07. Herr X
08. All Stood Still [Single Version]
09. Alles Klar
10. Keep Talking [Cassette Recording During Rehearsals]
11. All Stood Still [12” Mix]
12. Sleepwalk [Soundcheck, The Lyceum 17/8/1980]
13. All Stood Still [Soundcheck, The Lyceum 17/8/1980]
14. Vienna [Live Video Version, St Albans City Hall 16/8/80] *
15. Sleepwalk [Live Video Version, St Albans City Hall 16/8/80] *

CD Four: Cassette Recordings During Rehearsals 1979/80 *

01. Astradyne
02. New Europeans (Instrumental)
03. Private Lives (Instrumental)
04. Passing Strangers (Instrumental 1)
05. Sleepwalk (Version 1)
06. Mr. X
07. Western Promise
08. Vienna
09. All Stood Still (Instrumental 1)
10. Sound On Sound
11. Animal
12. Sleepwalk (Version 2)
13. Sound On Sound (Instrumental)
14. Passing Strangers (Instrumental 2)
15. All Stood Still (Instrumental 2)

CD Five: Live in St. Albans 1980 (2020 Mix) *

01. Astradyne
02. New Europeans
03. Passing Strangers
04. Quiet Men
05. Face To Face
06. Mr. X
07. Western Promise
08. Vienna
09. Slow Motion
10. Hiroshima Mon Amour
11. All Stood Still
12. Sleepwalk
13. Private Lives
14. King’s Lead Hat

DVD: Vienna
Vienna album – Steven Wilson Mix *
– 96/24 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
– DTS 96/24 5.1 Surround Mix
– DOLBY AC3 5.1 Surround Mix
– 96/24 LPCM Stereo Mix

B-sides – Steven Wilson Mix *
– 96/24 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
– DTS 96/24 5.1 Surround Mix
– DOLBY AC3 5.1 Surround Mix
– 96/24 LPCM Stereo Mix

Vienna album – 1980 Original Analog Master
– 96/24 LPCM Stereo Mix

B-sides – 1980 Original Analog Master
– 96/24 LPCM Stereo Mix

*Previously Unreleased.

Vienna 40th anniversary 2LP vinyl (half-speed mastered)

LP 1

Side A

1. Astradyne
2. New Europeans
3. Private Lives
4. Passing Strangers
5. Sleepwalk

Side B

1. Mr X
2. Western Promise
3. Vienna
4. All Stood Still

LP  2

Side A

1. Waiting
2. Face To Face  (Live in St Albans 16/8/80)
3. King’s Lead Hat  (Live at The Lyceum 17/8/80)
4. Vienna (US Promotional Edit)
5. Passionate Reply

LP 2

Side B

1. Herr X
2. All Stood Still (Single Version)
3. Alles Klar
4. Keep Talking (Cassette Recording During Rehearsals)

Vienna 40th anniversary 4LP clear vinyl box (official store exclusive)

Side A

01. Astradyne
02. New Europeans
03. Private Lives
04. Passing Strangers
05. Sleepwalk

Side B

01. Mr. X
02. Western Promise
03. Vienna
04. All Stood Still

Side C

01. Waiting
02. Face To Face [Live in St Albans 16/8/1980]
03. King’s Lead Hat [Live at The Lyceum 17/8/1980]
04. Vienna [US Promotional Edit] *
05. Passionate Reply

Side D

01. Herr X
02. All Stood Still [Single Version]
03. Alles Klar
04. Keep Talking [Cassette Recording During Rehearsals]

LP 2: Live in St. Albans 1980 

Side A

01. Astradyne
02. New Europeans
03. Passing Strangers
04. Quiet Men

Side B

01. Face To Face
02. Mr. X
03. Western Promise
04. Vienna

Side C

01. Slow Motion
02. Hiroshima Mon Amour

Side D

01. All Stood Still
02. Sleepwalk
03. Private Lives
04. King’s Lead Hat

231 responses to Ultravox / Vienna 40th anniversary

  1. Philip John Birtwistle says:

    So, finally got my copy from Santa. It really is a thing of beauty, both in packaging and sound!

  2. Kit Watson says:

    I just received my copy of the CD/DVD box set. Steve Wilson’s mix of “Waiting” is completely different, with missing parts. Why would he do that?

  3. Talk about selling people the SAME thing which they already over and over again,
    Pink Floyd do this sort of thing all the time too!!
    I was so excited when I heard there was going to be a five disc 4oth anniversary box set edition of ‘Vienna’ but I see this as a massive missed opportunity if I’m honest!!
    I can’t believe these people think different mixes are going to be of any use to fans!!
    If you have the ‘Rare’ volumes 1 and 2 which were released years ago like I do,
    then you already have the ‘B’ sides on CD!!
    The live recording is the only reason I bought this,
    but why not include an actual DVD of the St Albans concert,
    the footage is out there, a lot of it being on YouTube!!
    I attended their show at the Liverpool Empire on a freezing cold Thursday night in early December of 1980 and it was fantastic!!
    Vienna is one of my very favourite all time albums ever and in my opinion,
    by far the best thing Ultravox ever did,
    but the phrase ‘money for old rope’ certainly springs to mind here!!
    Sad to hear that many fans are missing discs and booklets in their set,
    that is sloppiness on a massive scale!!
    Let’s hope they get it right next year when they probably release the ‘Rage In Eden’ 40th anniversary box set??

  4. Philippe says:

    this year is also the fortieth anniversary of Visage first album and for obscure reasons of rights and disagreements there will not be a worthy reissue like Ultravox Vienna.

  5. Salamander says:

    Just receive this package. It would seem that the DVD does not contain a separate 24/96 5.1 Surround Sound Mix. My Oppo BDP-105D (which is set to give DVD-A preference) only allows me to select DTS or Dolby AC3. Checking the contents of the disc on a computer confirms this omission.

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      The DVD is a DVD-video not DVD-Audio as far as I was aware. It’s certainly labelled on the box as DVD-video.

      • Dave H says:

        The back of the box is misleading with its layout.

        It says:

        24/96 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
        DTS 24/96 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
        Dolby AC3 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
        24/96 LPCM Stereo Mix

        I believe the first line is a clerical error as it doesn’t specify a format such as LPCM like it does for the stereo mix. It does make it look like there’s four formats on the disc.

        The only 24/96 5.1 surround mix on the disc is the DTS mix.
        The AC3 surround mix is 448kbps for those who can’t listen to DTS.

        Really enjoyed listening to the surround mix, hats off to Steven Wilson.

      • Christopher Minjoot says:

        Very disappointed with this set – there is a listed 24/96 5.1 mix that is missing – available only in inferior DTS and AC3. The packaging also seems flimsy. Plus, my set which I ordered from Amazon UK is missing the booklet!

  6. Dave says:

    Not sure if my post got through, but on the box set, Western Promise is spelled incorrectly > Proimise

  7. Dave says:

    Hello All

    Hope everyone is staying safe and well.
    I received the Vienna box set (500 edition) in the post today and was quite excited as it’s an important record for me.
    Unfortunately, one of the main Vienna records has two labels stuck together and one is raised with a bit of tearing. As well, some of the jackets and inserts are wrinkled. Quite disappointing considering the cost of the box. Do you think Townsend / Ultravox Store would consider getting me that one replacement vinyl and inserts ? Just looking for thoughts on this from you guys ?

    • mike williams says:

      I got two copies of the double Live LP in mine. Correct sleeves but the Vienna half-speed had the Live LP again inside. There’s a replacement on the way from TMStores/Ultravox Shop.
      Plus the wrong spelling of “western promise” on the sleeve, label and outer box is a bit shoddy.

  8. Dave says:

    I just received my set today, but the set has 2 of Disc 1 and is missing Disc 2. Is anybody else having issues with receiving a complete set of 5 CDs and DVD? I’d like to reorder, but if there is a broader manufacturing issue with the set, I might wait a bit to see if they get it sorted out.

  9. cdmaniac says:

    Is anyone else having trouble getting this. My pre-order is just sitting there. It also seems many US sites say its not in stock. Paul is there a stock shortage or delay that you know of. TIA.

  10. Dan says:

    OK, forgive me if I’m thick or it’s been mentioned before, but is one of the Steven Wilson mixes missing on the DVD? The slipcase lists:
    Vienna album – Steven Wilson Mix *
    – 96/24 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
    – DTS 96/24 5.1 Surround Mix
    – DOLBY AC3 5.1 Surround Mix
    – 96/24 LPCM Stereo Mix
    but the disc menu only has the last 3. There’s no 96/24 5.1 Surround Sound mix that I can find. Or am I just being stupid? I know there’s greater things to worry about right now but I thought someone might know. It is a fantastic box set, by the way. Very happy with it.

    • Tom M says:

      @Dan You need a player that specifically plays DVD Audio to see the first option I believe and the player needs to be set up to play those files. DVD-A mode vs DVD Video mode.

  11. Sean Daly says:

    So please clear this up…
    What length should the album version of “All Stood Still” actually be?
    On this 40th Anniversary edition Track 9 is actually 3:43
    … but on the 2018 deluxe edition it is 4:26
    Which is correct?

    • Tom M says:

      @ Sean Daly Which version did you get? 4:26 is the album version. I’ve read in other forums the iTunes download has single mixes for tracks 8 & 9 but the CD is okay.

      • Ryk says:

        I would like to know if the physical copy has the original album version of “All Stood Still” or the single version (and what that length actually should be – according to Wikipedia the album is 4:21, the single 3:40 and the 12″ 5:05). According to Daniel (from Berlin), under a different post, he says that CDs 1 and 2 have the shorter, single version. He did not confirm whether the DVD content also makes that mistake (in it’s various sound formats).

        My copy has arrived in NZ, but is going to my parents house. I will be there on the weekend, but won’t be able to play it (and confirm any of this) until I am back at my place next week!

        • crimsontambu says:

          Disc 1: 1980 Analog Master All stood still 4’22
          Disc 2: Steven Wilson Mix All stood still 4’34
          Disc 3: All stood still (Single Version) 3’43
          Disc 3: All stood still (12″ Mix) 5’07

    • Blob McBlobface says:

      iTunes and other streaming services had the last two tracks from CD1 as single versions. Thhe actual CD is fine.
      On a side note the whole of CD 1 on streaming services doesn’t match the master of the Physical CD.

  12. Maxe says:

    I received this today (a day late, via JPC)… hadn’t had full time to listen to the album in whole (John Lennos, also a day late was in the same box…), so I put “at least” the title track, that I’ve heard a thousand times and hoping for the full Wilsonseque wonders (I really loved his work on TFF and I do love all his Jethro Tull boxes) – but, one song, many mixing errors? On a prominent song like this?
    After listening I stopped, played again and wrote down what distracted me:
    On 2:33 something is wrong, where do these additional sounds come from?
    On 4:00 the piano is nealy muted in the original mix but very (disappointingly) audible here (it is raised to full glory at 4:06 originally)
    plus the piano gets too much prominence from 4:18 on till the end…

    Dear Steve, you can do better!

    • Steve (Not Wilson) says:

      “After listening I stopped, played again and wrote down what distracted me:
      On 2:33 something is wrong, where do these additional sounds come from?
      On 4:00 the piano is nealy muted in the original mix but very (disappointingly) audible here (it is raised to full glory at 4:06 originally)”

      You have way too much time. :) :) :)

      • Maxe says:

        Too much time?
        No, it absolutely doesn’t sound right, it hit (and hurt)
        me on first listen. I didn’t want to tell “there’s something wrong”, it should be precise when someone tells it.

    • Tom says:

      Indeed, the additional bass note is interesting at 2:33, although you never know what the original masters did contain. Personally, I love the 4:00 sequence – and that is true for the whole Steve Wilson mixes, because I can suddenly hear instruments which were burried on the originals (probably one of the important reasons for doing a new mix).
      And regarding 4:18: Not only the piano but also Midges voice is louder, that this is IMO very well balanced – but of course, sounds different.

  13. Martin York says:

    Ooh ooh! 5CD+DVD box arrived in the post this morning. I’m SO looking forward to listening to the surround version of this superb album – that’s my focus for the weekend.

    Great packaging and delivery as usual – thanks Paul, a pleasure to support SDE.

  14. Stefan says:

    Is this almost sold out then at most places – or can we expect additional stock?

  15. Vils says:

    Re-listening to the 2008 remaster of Vienna I was underwhelmed. Comparing the 2008 12″ of ‘All Stood Still’ with the 2018 version on ‘Extended’ shows that there is potential to extract more out of the tapes. But £50+ means it will have to join a long queue…

  16. Daz says:

    Hi paul do you still have plenty of the cd box sets left?

    • Paul Sinclair says:


      • Daz says:

        Well paul thats it i’m broke! Just ordered ultravox as well as prince and tears for fears this week! My wife is upstairs packing her case as i send this email!! I do hope she does’nt take my cd player :)

  17. Vlad says:

    As much as Vienna is my favourite album of all time, what I’d really like to hear is a remix of Quartet. Unfortunately of the four classics UreVox produced it’s the least impressive sonically, with a somewhat lifeless and uneventful mix. Mr Wilson, I’m sure, can do it justice – and, seeing how its the band’s biggest US seller (and one of the best European ones, too), its DE seems feasible financially. Hopefully that’ll enter the minds of decision-makers.

    All other albums are perfect they way they are. Need not bother.

    • Don says:

      While I’d love SDEs of all the Ure-era Ultravox albums, I’m most hopeful that Steven Wilson works his way up the Ultravox catalog to “Lament”. That’s one of my favorite albums of the early 80s. An SDE with remastered audio and remixes and B-sides would be a dream come true.

  18. cdmaniac says:

    Hey guys. How is JPC shipping & packaging? Any horror stories?

  19. Gary Tilford says:

    The 4 LP clear vinyl set has now sold out, glad I ordered mine early. Paul, have you (or anyone else) any idea of the number of these sets issued?

    • RobS says:

      Gary Tilford – it states 500 on the Townsend site. Glad I ordered mine early too and really looking forward to the half speed master and the live set

  20. Nick says:

    Missed opportunity – why not rename it “Torque Point”?!?
    Jokes aside – a must buy for me, and the true “Definitive Edition” ;)

  21. Sub7 says:

    Love this, looking forward to the cassette rehearsal recordings and Live at St. Albans (so young and eager) very very much, loved Steven Wilson’s work on the Tears For Fears SFTBC album, looking forward to his informed vision towards the Vienna Conny Plank recording.

    I would love a Rage in Eden package on the same level of quality even more, that album was truly built inside the Conny Plank Studio, it has so many facets, more even so than Vienna, so go ahead and find all recording rehearsal cassette tapes (Warren Cann had loads), make a fine Dolby Surround version, exhume all those rich sounds and deliver UV Mk2’s best album to us in a similar format, that would be awesome!

  22. John 79 says:

    I could be wrong but I’m sure I’ve either had an email or I’ve seen that the new Ultravox Vienna CD/DVD boxset is limited to 500 units,can anyone confirm this ?

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      It’s not.

      • John 79 says:

        Thanks Paul for putting that right,I did get a promo email from Townsend Records about this Ultravox CD/DVD set and it was available,I have just checked their website again(5.50 am 13/8/20 and its saying that this was limited to 500 units but would I be correct in thinking that must be their own personal allowance of this item?

        PS, Love the site

  23. Mark says:

    I so hope that Steve Wilson will be doing the same for 40th super deluxe reissues for Duran Duran’s first two albums next year and the year after!

    Come on let’s have 24/96 S Wilson remix plus original mix (both flat transfers please) including singles and B- sides

  24. CAB says:

    There is a great deal of comfort in knowing who is in control of a project like this – Steven Wilson in this case – but in my opinion Rubellan Studios and Miles Showell have also pushed digital mastering into a trusted realm.
    There won’t be that moment of dread as the disc disappears into the player waiting for the possible over compressed distortion, lack of dynamics and 4khz boost.
    In Wilson’s case, I think the mixes will be a little drier, dynamic and separated than the originals, and I can’t wait to hear what he does with them.
    I want that wicked solo in All Stood Still to throttle me like Ure meant it to !

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      Steven Wilson was hired to do a stereo and 5.1 mix. He’s not in ‘control of the project’ as such

  25. Adam says:

    Still don’t understand why bands/record companies go to the trouble of paying out for a surround mix, hi rez etc, and then stick it on a DVD rather than a blu ray.

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      If you read the comments you’ll see we’ve already had that discussion and suggested reasons why with links to other sites etc. I’d recommend people do read all the comments on a post asking a question that may have already been answered.

    • James says:

      The DVD has hi-res audio (96/24) on it so you’re not missing out on anything a blu-ray disc will give you. If you look at these as storage devices a dual layered DVD can hold 8.5GB of data and a dual layered Blu-ray can hold 50GB.

      Since there’s no added video’s or concert footage, I imagine all the data can fit on a DVD.

      • James Beresford-Wylie says:

        The DTS 5.1 mix is lossy, so it is not at the same quality as a Blu-Ray. It does seem mad to mix an album in lossless 96/24 and then release it in a lossy format, however it’s all about authoring costs and licensing costs. I had a brief message conversation with Bruce Soord (pineapple thief) well respected 5.1 and on his first album they did release the full 96/24 version as a download, he confirmed the authoring/licence fees as being the sole reason . It’s a shame and for me bundling a file only full res version would be fine as I can stream it through my Oppo.

        • Arnd says:

          If AdrianW (see below) is right, the DVD contains the 5.1 mix in a lossless codec.

        • Steve Burke says:

          The dts mix is lossy, but the listing also separately lists “5.1 24/96 Surround Sound” which is often how DVD-Audio nomenclature goes, as well as sometimes “5.1 24/96 Advanced Resolution”. As long as there are three surround tracks, two would be in the VIDEO_TS folder and one would be in the AUDIO_TS folder and it would be a DVD-Audio disc, not long to wait to find out but it would be great to get clarification.

          Just for correct terminology, lossless refers to compression so nothing is actually mixed “in lossless” but rather mixed in PCM (uncompressed) and THEN compressed to MLP (for DVD-A).

      • Jim Beam's Wee Brother says:

        The high rez Steve Wilson Stereo Mix tests as upsampled with Lossless Audio Checker 2.0.7.
        While the CD 2, 3, 4 and 5 all test as Mpeg with TLH.
        All a bit strange.
        Love this album as much as the Ultrafoxx stuff.

    • Steve Burke says:

      Because if they stick it on a DVD-Audio they’ve saved money overall and it’s likely anyone with a Blu-ray player that cares about high resolution surround will either be able to play DVD-Audio or know how to rip it to 24/96 5.1 FLAC which they could then play via USB on their Blu-ray player.

    • Carl says:

      What`s wrong with DVD ? , old format yes , but Blu-Ray players are backward compatible .

      • SimonP says:

        There’s also the plain and simple fact that human ears cannot hear “hi res” music, even if your system is actually capable of reproducing it in the first place. Even high end speaker manufacturers don’t often list frequency response of their kit now because no-one will buy them if they don’t go up to the 48 kHz that they can’t hear, will they? I’d be willing to bet that not a soul commenting here would be able to accurately tell apart a BD disc from a DVD.

        The Emperor’s new clothes and you’re all wandering around in the nuddy. Even Steven Wilson himself poo-poos hi res music in this interview before very quickly changing the subject once he realises what he said. Don’t tell them, Pike!

        • Fathomer says:

          ‘sigh’ yes you can tell the difference between hires and standard audio. Years ago the AES did a test, which is oft quoted by hires deniers as ‘proof’ you can’t hear it. Years later, the testers admitted that, ‘cough’ they used a high end, two box CD player v a low end multi format player, and ‘surprise’ very few people could tell the difference. Later tests (again by the AES and others) have shown, actually, yes you can. As for standard DVD v Blu ray, the bandwidth difference between the two (and DVD v DVD-Audio) is enormous. As such if you can’t hear a difference, get ’em syringed..

        • Steve Burke says:

          You’re only commenting on “high resolution”, I find it pretty easy to tell the difference between 448 Kbps Dolby Digital 5.1 for studio material with an adventurous surround mix over a lossless version regardless of what format it’s on. The very opening of Tubular Bells sounds wrong with paltry DD and the 5.1 24/48 download Bowers & Wilkins offered (FLAC) resolves the sibilants more pleasingly. Of course Mike’s creative team for packaging can’t even label the discs correctly, putting “DVD-Audio” on several titles that are DVD-Video only like Discovery and Return to Ommadawn but that’s another story.

          I don’t care whether it’s on Blu-ray or DVD-Audio, as long as it’s not just DVD-Video. That’s nothing to do with high res vs CD quality but rather lossy vs lossless/uncompressed.

    • Fathomer says:

      Cost I think. For DVD-Audio you have to pay for the rights to MLP and the authoring software (which isn’t cheap) and for Blu Ray you have to pay for the more expensive Dolby and DTS formats. Otherwise, as you say, I can’t think why you wouldn’t?

      • Paul Sinclair says:

        I managed to sneak through a DVD-A in the Tears For Fears ‘Songs From The Big Chair’ box set :)

      • Steve Burke says:

        The cost of the dts/Dolby can be avoided by using LPCM 5.1, Blu-ray supports 5.1 PCM up to 24/192 and 7.1 PCM up to 24/96. However you still have BD licensing fees, AACS fees, etc., so BD is still quite a bit more expensive than DVD.

        • Dave H says:

          Reading all the comments regarding Blu-ray costs, it just shows how amazing the XTC and Yes reissues have been in terms of value for money.

          I really hope the multi-tracks of some of the early XTC albums are around to be mixed to 5.1 surround. It’ll be nice to hear something from XTC mark I.

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  27. memoryboy says:

    I love Ultravox. I have all their stuff. But it feels like this album has been re-issued many times in the past. As well as their other albums. I’ve purchased their past reissues, and it seems this album has been released a few times with bonus disc and bonus tracks. I could be wrong, as I’ve been wrong before, but this seems like the fourth or fifth time this album has been re-issued with extras over the past ten or fifteen years. It’s a great album. Just not sure if I need to buy it again. The past reissues sounded great to me. It seems the basic 7″ singles and 12″ remixes have all already been re-issued. On compilations and deluxe album reissues. I wonder if they will be doing their whole 80’s catalogue. Again.

  28. Isaías says:

    I think this deluxe is kind of anniversary edition and people here are waiting or dreaming for the back catalogue to get the same treatment which I doubt a lot. Since Chrisalys/EMI now belongs to Universal and Island Records also it woulnd’t be a bad idea to happen but…
    I love both Ultravox John Foxx and Midge Ura era so both deserves deluxe editions to me. Many years ago when Universal released remastered versions of the first 3 albums Midge Ure himself wished to make it as 2cds set which the label decline and I think it’s the time to fix it now although I repeat I doubt something to be release beyond Vienna album. I just lament !!!

    • Simon Musselle says:

      Chrysalis are no longer owned by Universal, Warners, EMI or anyone else that has messed things up in the past. They are now a subsidiary of Blue Raincoat, set up by the original Chrysalis team.

  29. Gary Tilford says:

    Why are so many people dismissing the dvd because they are not interested in surround sound? I have always listened to my music in stereo and have never been interested in a surround version of my favourite albums. I am, however, really looking forward to listening to Vienna in 96/24 stereo on the dvd. Major bonus for me.

    • Quante says:

      I’ve got some desire to one day get surround sound, but as I barely watch any films it seems a significant investment just to listen to music. That said, I’ve bought plenty of music bluray sets with surround sound, with the optimism I’ll not have another drain on our money one day to go and buy a system. How do I argue that the kitchen that needs replacing isn’t the financial priority, then it’ll be something else! I did buy cds without the capability to play them in the 80’s, but it was inevitable that the cd was becoming the major music format, so it was only a question of time and money before I got a cd player.

      The other motivation not to get surround sound capability is the stereo system sounds fantastic, so I don’t feel like I’m missing out too much.

    • Carl says:

      Same here although i have just bought a cheap second hand 5.1 set up of Ebay to see what the fuss is all about , and i always rip the Hi-Res tracks off the DVD`s for my DAP to listen on the go.

  30. Craig Hedges says:

    Interesting how an artist and their material gets treated over the years. Ultravox (Mark ll) we’re signed to Chrysalis in 1980, that label was then sold to EMI in 1992, initially they released some compilations (rare 1 & 2 and the Midge comp If I was) then nothing. The Ultravox fan club Extreme Voice campaigned really hard to get EMI to remaster the albums in the late 1990s and won BUT at the time EMI only deemed these releases worthy of release as a single CD on their budget EMI Gold label, including the 20th anniversary release of Vienna. The music press have always given Ultravox Mark II a hard time so it great to see the positive response to this release and the interest in their other albums getting the same treatment.

  31. Surround Man says:

    Let’s hope this is the beginning of a new batch of reissues with a 5.1 surround mix from the same era.
    Off the top of my head, I’m thinking
    The Human League – Dare
    Duran Duran – Duran Duran
    David Bowie – Scary Monsters
    OMD – Architecture & Morality
    Simple Minds – Sons And Fascination

    • Chris Squires says:

      It’s a shame that the process of getting a good 5.1 remix is prohibitively expensive for so many albums that just wouldn’t sell in significant enough numbers. I think of albums like Steps in Time, The Ups and Downs, Human Racing, Human’s Lib, Alf. None have a snowballs chance (unless I’ve missed something). You need something with the cache of those mentioned above or Welcome to the Pleasuredome to get the accountant interested I suppose.

      • SimonP says:

        The powers that be should try Bruce Soord instead of the go to of the moment Steven Wilson. They’d get just as good as a job but for less money. Maybe…??

    • Paul Taylor says:

      I think there will be a bit of activity around Dare next year. You probably know they’re touring the album, so I’d be surprised there wasn’t some SDE issued to shackle the interest that will undoubtedly be generated.

    • Michael McA says:

      Interesting to note I have bought all of the above – between original release vinyl and CD and remastered CD and remastered CD with extra tracks and remastered CD with different extra tracks – and special box set and extra special box set – (and on) – far too many times!

      Dare – at least 5 times!


      ……. mind you – a very special stand alone Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call would be a joy. Often wondered if there were other instrumental versions (like This Earth That You Walk Upon and Seeing Out The Angel) kicking around.

      All the above tremendous albums.

      Bopping to Planet Earth in 1981 in my new romantic gear! Happy days.

    • Blakey says:

      Great idea, Surround Man.

      U2- Boy
      Japan – Tin Drum
      Teardrop Explodes – Kilimanjaro
      Associates – Sulk
      ABC – The Lexicon Of Love
      Simple Minds – New Gold Dream 81, 82, 83, 84

      • Mark says:

        New Gold Dream 5.1 already exists on DVD-A and Blu-ray

      • Surround Man says:

        Teardrop Explodes – Kilimanjaro is a good shout. I can just imagine how good Reward would sound with the brass section coming out of the rear speakers. There were also extra guitar parts on the US album version that weren’t on the UK mix.

        There’s plenty of albums from the 70’s that have been released in surround format, some of them as quad mixes since they already existed from back in the day. I think most Prog Rock albums have been re-released as 5.1.

        In contrast the 80’s seems to be the forgotten decade even though I imagine most albums were being recorded on at least 24 tracks so there’s more scope for a decent surround mix. I say in contrast because I have approx. 200 surround releases from the 70’s but only 100 from the 80’s.

    • John 79 says:

      Gary Numan’s TELEKON album would sound amazing in 5.1 surround sound but for its 40th Anniversary just gone Beggar’s Banquet didn’t release anything to acknowledge the anniversary of Numan’s No 1 album, Even the basic 5.1 surround sound would have been appreciated by Numan’s cult fan base, oh well, we can dream :((

  32. Shane says:

    Extra track not on the 6-disc box and instead only in the two-vinyl version: are you kidding me?
    If that doesn’t reek of desperation to make fans double-dip! They should be ashamed.

  33. Norbert says:

    I have to excuse for my former silly comment: the information I was asking for is clearly declared in the product description here: CD 1 – Original 1980 album (newly mastered from production tapes).

    So, yes, a new remaster 2020 of Vienna. Hopefully better than the 2000 one.
    And together with the Steve Wilson Remix (CD2) for me the only reason to buy Vienna again. CD3-5 and the DVD do not have any value at all for me.

    As I said already: the half speed mastering on vinyl could be the most interesting sound experience ….

  34. Andy says:

    Really looking forward to this, particularly the rehearsal stuff. Other record companies should take note of the generous pricing, I would imagine it will be rewarded with healthy sales which will hopefully prompt a similar release project for Rage In Eden

  35. Derek says:

    Fantastic album, saw Midge Ure play this in full last year as well. Loads of content at a sensible price. Ordered from SDE

  36. Gary Hunter says:

    Good to see one of the greatest albums of all time getting the super deluxe treatment at a very reasonable price, virtually every track could have been a single :)

  37. Rob S says:

    Nik, looking at the Passing Strangers 12″ which feature both Face to Face and Kings Lead Hat they were recorded on different nights. The blurb for this release states the St Albans show is from 16th August 1980 so only Face to Face will be a duplicate. In fact the earlier Kings Lead Hat is from a Lyceum show on 17th August. So a bit more interest to hear a different version in this set

  38. Patrick Gleeson says:

    Ordered via SDE Shop – one of my favourite early 80’s synth albums :-) As box sets go these days, not too expensive either. Compare this to the just announced New Order ‘Power, Corruption & Lies’ set.

  39. Tom from FIN says:

    Is there information about reissuing Rage in Eden as such deluxe package? Instant googling did not amount to anything.

    Though RIE was remastered only two years ago and as 2CD set with bonuses.

  40. CJ Feeney says:

    I’m not in the market for this, but as with the Marillion Brave set, it is annoying to have two stereo mixes of the original album.

    Steven Wilson’s method (stated in several places including on this website) with stereo is to create a mix as close to the original as possible as a reference point on the way to the 5.1. It won’t be all that different to the original mix, so why waste a disc by having both?

    At least this set appears to have more than decent archive material for the fans. I didnt buy that Brave set due to the lack of archive material beyond yet another live show .

  41. Todd says:

    Very excited to hear this further period material. I got into UVox only after appreciating Mr. Ure’s solo career, and before that – just as the Band Aid/Live Aid guy. I guess the best part is discovering the band en mass – what an amazing ride. Saw the band open for Simple Minds in 2013 at the O2 – was amazing. One of the last concerts I got to see prior to C19 lockdowns was the Motels/Bow Wow Wow/and When In Rome II. WIRII brought out “All Fall Down” in their set, as singer Tony Fennell was singing for Ultravox prior to the classic line-up reunion. A kind nod to a great band, and some wonderful music.

  42. V says:

    Love Ultravox and such a great album. Astradyne may be the greatest instrumental I’ve ever heard. I’m really interested to hear the 1980 concert version compared to the fantastic one on Return to Eden.

  43. Fady says:

    Loved the single but never bought the album. But judging by the comments it’s one that should be in most people’s collections. Given the more than reasonable price I’m leaning heavily towards buying it, especially given that Steven Wilson has worked on the project.

    On a side note, I was gutted when I ordered the stereo vinyl mix of Tears For Fears’ SFTBC and was sent the standard issue from the Universal website instead. When I explained the error to them they informed me that they’d sold out. Adding lemon juice to the wounds is when I read comments saying how good it sounds. Grrrrrrr.

    Not sure if this has been posted but came across an excellent Wilson interview from the Sounds website. I have to say I love his philosophy and approach to music. Was very excited to hear that his work with Tears For Fears’ TSOL was completed in 2019. Surely the Deluxe Edition release must be very, very close now.

  44. PdB says:

    Wha!? No VHS, cassette deluxe, 8-track or reel to reel! What a missed opportunity *smirk*

    How very cool is this release!! I’m only a casual fan but will pick up the deluxe CD set & double vinyl. As a collector of physical media it’s always great fun when these types of sets get released. Even though admittedly being a music hoarder I don’t get around to too many repeat listens before something shiny & new pops on the player!

    We are pretty spoilt these days for reissues. Of course we don’t always get the ones we want – but we can only live in hope. Speaking of which …I’m amazed Pat Benatar hasn’t had an reissue campaign *hint hint* ha.

    Paul: any word on the Blondie albums box set? Last I heard they were gathering memorabilia images from fans…but all has been quiet.

  45. Marc Carter says:

    I lost interest with Ultravox following Mr Fox’s departure and was originally very dismissive of the album ‘Vienna’ but I do believe it’s grown in stature and stood the test of time.
    I’m surprised to see that Ultravox Mk II played both ‘Slow Motion’ and ‘Hiroshima Mon Amour’ live…am very curious to hear Midge Ure’s interpretation.

    • Mark Calvert says:

      I was thinking exactly the same thing. Midge covering John Foxx vocals. Did you but it marc? if so what is your verdict?

      • Mick says:

        I’ve a copy of the “Echos Of Pleasure” from 13/12/1980 which have versions of Quiet Men, Slow Motion and a nearly 10 minute version of Hiroshima Mon Amour, musically similar to Ultravox I but with Midge doing vocals as per Ultravox II so they still sound excellent. Looking forward to hearing an official version of an early ish concert.

  46. Shane says:

    is anybody having issue with amazon now not delivering to the us region

  47. Ryk says:


    Just a comment about the pricing widget, and I know you can’t do anything about this. With the Amazon Canada price, tax is not included and is added during the checkout process. With the Amazon UK price VAT is included and is removed at during checkout process if shipping outside the EU (back when that was possible to do). Just pointing out that that needs to be taken into consideration when comparing prices.


  48. Brian Smith says:

    So frustrating that they only release the 5.1 within a boxset. Why not have it as a stand alone? or at least with the CD only.

  49. Phil Marsh says:

    I too will be ordering through the site to show support. Interesting to me that people are looking forward to different things. I don’t have a 5.1 set up and never had a great interest in having one, so the DVD is a waste (for me…at least for the time being) – but clearly others are looking forward to that alone! Others have no interest in the live gig – but that to me is the main draw, along with the unreleased stuff FINALLY coming to release.

    Having seen the Sleepwalk video promo filmed at the St Albans gigon youtube it’s a real shame the whole gig isn’t available on this set on video (or even any of it) as they were most certainly at their most dynamic live when young and hungry (IMO). But still plenty to enjoy here and great news that a version of Vienna is finally coming out with all this stuff on it.

  50. AdrianW says:

    I love Ultravox. This is one band I have no issue with milking the back catalog ! The more the better.

  51. John 79 says:

    I know this section is about Ultravox and they have done the fans proud with these boxsets,
    I wish Beggars Banquet would do something like this for Gary Numans Telekon 40th Anniversary 2020 September release but Beggars Banquet always say that there’s not enough material floating about to do anything special,why don’t they ask the fans,there must be enough stuff floating about in fan circles if not in Beggars vaults,
    The very least they could do is a double picture disc…..

    • Derek Langsford says:

      I would love to hear many of Numan’s albums in discrete 5.1 but in communication years ago with Steve (Webbon?) at BB, he said they had hi-res digital (96/24 which he said sounded great) but 5.1 was not going to happen as at that time it took £1 million to do a 5.1. I suspect the price may have come down but it’s hard to imagine them being able to recoup even half that cost.

      Having bought Numan’s BB albums on vinyl, cassette, 2 on 1 CDs, Double CDs, remastered CDs with bonus tracks, the 30th Anniversary Edition of TPP and Replicas Redux, the only way I’d buy them again would be as deluxe editions containing a 5.1 mix. I could see Telekon with the album CD plus IDYD and WAG, a CD of alternative versions (if they can
      find some), Living Ornaments 80 and/or 81, and a 5.1 mix or at least hi-res stereo on DVD (assuming blu-ray would be out of the question).

      Numan has not been able to put out any live concerts on blu-ray or in 5.1 because of the additional costs involved. Sadly, most artists survive though performance ticket sales rather than physical media.

      • John 79 says:

        Hi Derek,I like you have everything released by Numan in many formats, re-releases etc as a fan from 78/79
        I know that BB will never release anything special regarding Gary Numan,they have never been very good at coming up with ideas(except for the AFE pic disc) for releases for Gary and making money out of his releases( for example no 12″release for WAG or IDYD),Numan fans are avid collectors and
        especially in the early days ,it surprises me why they won’t invest in doing the early albums in at least 5.1 dolby digital,there is the market for them especially the No.1 Album trilogies of Replicas ,The Pleasure Principle and Telekon, there is also lots of fans that have unreleased demos ,out takes ,live etc that if Were professionally cleaned up could be enjoyed by a wider fan audience,
        Regarding Numan 5.1 releases, there a four dvd releases that were released in 5.1 Dolby Digital, Jagged Live,Hope Bleeds, Berserker and the Skin Mechanic tour,i think the last two were sanctuary releases ,so it is possible…..

  52. df1chicago says:

    you’d think they’d put the music videos from this album on the dvd, yes?

    • Norbert says:

      Does anyone know if the original album, CD1, which is declared as “Original 1980 Analog Master” contains the mastering of “the first CD release” (whatever this should be) or does also consists of a 2020 remaster?

      I guess, as the Steven Wilson Mix is a “remaster”, already, there will be no further one in this set, unless you buy the vinyl. Then you would have a half speed one.

      But coming back to the CD format and here CD1 of the bundle: I do not need another version of Vienna Remastered (2000) as this was awfully compressed and hissing. My point of view….

  53. richard says:

    I was really looking forward to this but I’m disappointed with the fact that the Steve Wilson Stereo Mix is only on the CD version.
    They missed a trick there as this is much desirable than a gig in St Albans,

  54. JeffB101 says:

    Hi Paul… definitely all over this and want to order from the SDE shop. Checking out with PayPal shows a shipping charge of 41 pounds to the US. Hopefully I am missing something as this would effectively almost double the cost of the deluxe edition. Love the site!

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      Sadly, reduced transportation to the US due to COVID and Trump’s shenanigans with the postal union has greatly increased postage charges to the USA. It’s really frustrating, all I can do is apologise because I realise that it’s a lot. This set will probably surface in the US somewhere (maybe Amazon US) so maybe just see what your options are.

    • Thomas says:

      check out only 3 € spipping costs to the states

      • Paul Sinclair says:

        Which is absurd, which you consider it costs nearly 1 euro to send a piece of paper in an envelope within the UK.

        • Derek Langsford says:

          I think jpc is €3 flat rate plus 3 per kilo. Would doubt this set will come to more than one kilo as it doesn’t contain a thick hardback book or vinyl.

          Amazon UK currently say “This item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location,” which is codswallop.

    • Glen says:

      Same issue here. Really want to support your site with this, which would be my first purchase from you. I checked the Ultravox store, and shipping to the US there is $30.

      Either way, this’ll be an expensive birthday gift to myself.

      • Derek Langsford says:

        I pulled the trigger with JPC. With no overseas Amazons shipping to the US, Amazon US wanting $59.98 plus California sales tax (8%), Amazon CA wanting $US 61.27 plus shipping, JPC came in at EUR 40.51 (VAT removed) + 4.80 shipping = EUR
        45.31/$ 53.56/£41.00.

        I am not sure how they can do it for that amount but it’s a no brainer as long as it arrives undamaged. If it all works well I might be using them more with Amazon not shipping overseas. Of course, with Trump playing politics with the USPS I might have to wait a couple of weeks or so.

        • Derek Langsford says:

          Doubt that anyone will see this, but I was foiled by JPC and the 9 hour time difference between the US and Germany. I preordered a month ago but when JPC went to charge my credit card to start the shipping, the card I used denied the charge until I confirmed it was legitimate. But because JPC attempted the charge after I went to bed (US Pacific Time) and I was unable to respond to my cc request until after I woke the next morning, JPC’s system cancelled my order, and when I asked about if they could try again, they told me their system cancelled my order and I needed to reorder. Of course by the time I found this out, it was no longer available at their site. Aaargh!

          So Amazon US got my order at $65 delivered, $11:50 more than it would have been from JPC. I hope the same version is sold worldwide.

  55. Michael McA says:

    Do they really need to stick [Deluxe edition] under Vienna on the artwork?

    • Ex-Oligarch says:

      I have to agree, it’s unnecessary and clashes with the original iconic design.

      You would think that if the marketing people felt it was necessary to point out the obvious to the consumer, they’d at least have the decency to sticker the shrinkwrap rather than weakening the visual impact of the premium product itself.

    • Olli says:

      Totally agree – these little two words on the cover save money. And for all who do not take care of original artwork the same announcement: take care or you won‘t get my money.
      (of course I am not that important that anyone would give sh**t to my speech, but please just let me feel important, thx)

      • Derek Langsford says:

        This is really a minor quibble IMO. Yes, I’d rather it not be there, but I don’t intend to display it front-facing out, and I buy music mostly to listen to not stare at the artwork.

        One of the most egregious instances of printing on artwork versus using a sticker was the CD remaster of Thomas Dolby’s Golden Age of Wireless where the German video rating was printed on the bottom left of the booklet’s front page in a 1.5″ x 1.5″ white box!

  56. Andy says:

    The Steve Wilson mix is available on vinyl on record store day

  57. negative1 says:

    Was waiting for you to announce this here. I’m a huge
    fan, so this will be an easy purchase for me.

    Looking forward to it, and glad to see so many ultravox
    fans here.

    This is one of my favorite albums from them, along with
    the next 3, are pure classics.


  58. Nowhereman says:

    £52.00 ??? And for that you get a remix, b sides etc, demos, live stuff and surround sound. That is excellent value. Someone should tell Mr McCartney ( and I speak as someone who has bought most of his archive releases)

  59. Arnd says:

    Wait a minute, the track list lists the surround mix in three different formats: Dolby Digital, DTS … but what is the first, listed here as “96/24 5.1 Surround Sound Mix”. Is there a DVD-A portion on the disc after all?

    • AdrianW says:

      That would be multi channel high resolution PCM. (uncompressed audio)

      • Arnd says:

        Okay – but 24/96, 5.1, PCM lossless is the best quality, so what are DD and DTS for?

      • Steve Burke says:

        DVD-A doesn’t support 24/96 5.1 PCM, it would be way out of spec. If there is a 24/96 5.1 track in addition to the dts 24/96 5.1 then it would have to be MLP.

        Fingers crossed it really is a DVD-A.

  60. Deakie Bass says:

    If there’s one thing I do think is ‘missing’ from this release: the promo “video” for Vienna was mostly shot on film (if I’m not wrong?) and if the original film negs still exist, it would be amazing to see that re-digitized from the negs and remastered in HD on a BluRay.
    (The promo for ‘Passing Strangers’ was an SD video affair, unless I’m misremembering, so there’d be less to be gained by remastering that … still, even that would look better less compressed on BluRay)

    • Glen says:

      I believe they both were shot on 16mm film. I wouldn’t expect the original negatives to still exist, but it would be a nice inclusion. (No idea if it is significant, but the Vienna video on Ultravox’s YouTube channel has horrible picture quality.)

      Also hoping this is the start of a trend for Ultravox deluxe editions…

  61. Deakie Bass says:

    I’ve bought this album on CD about three times already over the years, I think,
    but I pre-ordered this like a shot.
    I love Steve Wilson’s 5.1 surround mixes,
    and the inclusion of a whole extra live gig (with Hiroshima Mon Amour and Slow Motion too! Woooo!) is exciting.
    I must say, Conny Plank’s production on the original album was superb and I can’t think why it should need a new stereo mix, though – but it will be interesting to see if I can spot any difference!

  62. Rob Kirby says:

    Shame it doesn’t have the full, uncut BBC Radio 1 In Concert show, but perfect other than that!

    • Rob Kirby says:

      And yes, having both versions of that iconic video – and even the third TOTP heavy video edit (and maybe that’s the extra US promo version on this set?), which proves they were right to hold out against it – and Passing Strangers and the two St. Albans tracks would have been nice too :)

  63. Guido says:

    Great content, love this album very much since it was released in the 80s.
    Bad choice for the DVD format for the 5.1.
    Would be a nobrainer with blu-ray. So I probably stick with the vinyl edition

  64. Luke says:

    I’ll stay with my 2CD Definitive Edition copy from 2018 ;-) :-) But it’s a great album anyway …

    • mike says:

      Yes, i agree. Its a great value set but i will still listen to my £6 2CD set. 11/10 though for good price and lots of material.

  65. Ex-Oligarch says:

    This looks very promising.

    As a listener whose impression of this album was formed by many, many playings of the original US pressing of this album, I’ve never been able get used to the “proper” UK track order. Chrysalis US scrambled the track order on the first side of the album as follows:

    1. Sleepwalk
    2. Passing Strangers
    3. New Europeans
    4. Private Lives
    5. Astradyne

    This starts the record out with two near-perfect, concise synth rock songs in a row, before dialing things back to the high romance of tracks 3 and 4; the there’s the instrumental to wind out the side and prepare for the stylistic break of “Mr. X” that opens side 2.

    To my ear, the UK track order starts things off with a l-o-n-g, seven-minute plus instrumental (albeit a great one) before finally getting down to business with the songs, and doesn’t really hit its stride until “Passing Strangers,” four tracks in.

    I wonder how listeners who first heard the UK version perceive this.

    One explanation I’ve heard for the UK track order is that it was based on the band’s live set list, which started off with Astradyne to facilitate ironing out any problems with the band’s sound setup before adding vocals to the mix. It makes sense from a practical perspective for a live show, but seems like a strange way to sequence a studio album.

    (I’m not complaining that this edition stuck with the band’s intended track order, which is only sensible. Nostalgic American listeners can always reprogram the running order, or play our old LPs.)

    • Alan says:

      I have lived with the UK version since I first bought the album in 83. I sold my vinyl copy before moving to Canada and a few years ago picked up a Canadian copy. Not looking at the tracklist and put it on. I was confused. I don’t mind either, but the UK is how I usually want it to run.

    • Rob Kirby says:

      Personally, I always found Ultravox’s track sequencing to be perfect, at least across the first four Ure-era albums. To me, Astradyne works as a huge statement of intent and the album just builds and builds from there. I managed to get an early US CD with the alternative track sequencing, and felt that stacking the early singles at the beginning disturbed the flow. It also loses the way that there’s barely a pause after the dying notes of Astradyne before New Europeans cuts in.

      Still, there’s a lot of truth in the version of something you hear first being the one you prefer. I always lean towards the single edit/remix of The Thin Wall for that reason. And echoing others here, I also hope that they continue with Rage in Eden next year, as there should be some interesting concert material and work-in-progress mixes – the two on the Definitive Edition were fascinating glimpses as those songs developed.

    • Derek Langsford says:

      I think we all have biases, preferring the track order we first heard or with which we grew up. I also thing there are distinct musical sensibilities that while overlapping still separate Europeans from Americans evidenced by the differences in what is successful in the UK versus US.

      For me, never ever hearing the album with the US track order, the thought of starting off with Sleepwalk would be a jolting experience. Astradyne, apart from being an epic introduction laying the groundwork for the rest of the album, showed that their were a serious band presenting a work of art, not just another band trying to make hit singles. IMO the UK track order enhances the album experience.

    • Joe Mac Pherson says:

      Hello, Ex-Oligarch,

      Like you, I purchased Vienna in the original vinyl format, released on Chrysalis Records in the States. I always that Sleepwalk was a hot jolt to kick off the album. It prepared you for the succession of music that follows, on side 1. Astradyne, the final track, was a perfect to close. Atmospheric, ethereal, a wonderful instrumental that allows us to chill after so many adrenaline rushes that precede it.

      And, as you mention, it prepares us for Mr. X, on Side 2. Wonderful. So, when I bought the remastered Vienna as a UK CD import, I was thoroughly confused about hearing Astradyne as Track 1. I thought, this must be a mistake. It altered the flow of songs I was used to, since 1980.

      I met Midge Ure in 2015. He’s a real gentleman. Among the topics we discussed, I just had to find out, how did Astradyne get rearranged as the opening track on Vienna? He was amused; he knew the U.S. Chrysalis track order very well. He told me, Ultravox always intended Astradyne for the opening track, and that’s how it was- except in the USA. He told me, executives at Chrysalis informed the band, before Vienna was released here, no one ever opens an album with an instrumental. Chrysalis was adamant: It just isn’t done in the U.S. Americans expect albums to open with a proper song, and take it from there. This is what Midge Ure told me.

      So, as a result, to please their US label, Ultravox conceded. They rearranged the track order on Side 1; Side 2, apparently, was fine just the way it was as far as Chrysalis was concerned. Therefore, everyone who bought Vienna in the States knew the album with Sleepwalk as the opener.

      Midge told me, “What you’re hearing now is Vienna, the way we originally wanted it to be. It was only a problem with Chrysalis in the States.”

  66. Thomas says:

    Excellent, but I would have preferred getting the remix on vinyl rather than the original, which I already own 3 pressings of.

    • Chris Squires says:

      Yes indeed, this can be quite a draw. The blue cover Steven Wilson remix of Songs From the Big Chair is beautiful. Particularly, as you say, when you have many, many copies of the original anyway.

  67. Phil says:

    Brings back a lot of fond memories being 14 in 1980.
    The hair, the style of clothing and attitude.
    And Vienna becoming a classic.
    Ordering from SDE for its excellent price/service.
    Keep up the good work Paul.

  68. Jim Lee says:

    Love this album Saw them live many times. Vienna would send shivers down my spine. Scrolled down for the price with some trepidation but very pleasantly surprised. Will order now from you Paul.

  69. CJ Feeney says:

    Steven Wilson fans are having a good year depsite the postponement of The Future Bites.

    New releases from No Man, Blackfield and Porcupine Tree, and he sprinkles his fairy dust over yet another classic album from our youth.

    The Porcupine Tree LP is selling out fast on Burning Shed by the way, so if anyone hasn’t had wind of it yet:

    • Keef says:

      Don’t think he had much (anything?) to do with the new Blackfield album, sounds like the other guy has gone in a pretty different direction with it. And petty sure the No-Man album was last year. But his Roxy Music remix is also finally coming out at the end of the month for RSD and if we could actually get his Seeds of Love remix then that would really make it a golden Wilson year!

      • Paul Sinclair says:

        Steven sings/plays on three tracks, on Blackfield, I think. But he didn’t write, produce, mix, or have any influence on the musical direction.

        • CJ Feeney says:

          I stand corrected. (Even though I’m sitting down). Still a fairly healthy 12 months of activity for Mr Wilson. It’s a shame the Jethro Tull series seems to be over.

  70. roboter says:

    A M A Z I N G !

  71. Neil O'Sullivan says:

    A great album. I don’t usually bother with the big box sets but this is different. Probably my favourite album of all time. Bought from SDE to support the excellent site/service.

  72. Don says:

    Okay, don’t get me wrong, I am super-psyched for this release (Ultravox and Steven Wilson!!!), but I am a greedy fan and I have to know: does this mean Wilson it tackling ALL of the Ure-era Ultravox albums? Because if Wilson get his hands on “Lament”, one of my favorite college-era albums, and we get a stacked SDE… I will literally pass out from happiness. Anyone (Paul?) have any inside info on future U-vox plans?…

  73. Leemer says:

    Wow! Ultravox Vienna, with so much content and so reasonably priced too! A fantastic collection, all for under a Benjamin. Big choices to make for my holiday purchasing season. The question is, “Have I been good enough all year to deserve all of these?” Perhaps not, but this is really a lovely set catches my eye. Wish some USA vendors would post their prices so I can allocate.


  74. Gordon Wheeler says:

    Massively happy to see this in 5.1, whilst I may have my eagerness dashed when I actually here it, I cannot wait.

    An awesome album, and I am equally interested in hearing the 2020 remaster in 24/96.

    Western Promise is going to get the full beans on the volume dial, but not before Astradyne has been used to blow the windows out.

    Hope Rage in Eden gets the same treatment.

  75. Arnd says:

    Big deep sigh.
    I should not buy this box. I really should not.
    I should stop living in the past and move on. There is so much new music to discover. This record ist 40 (forty) years old. This release is only serving the youth nostalgia of old men like me.
    I should not buy it.
    Another big sigh.
    How much is the box again…?

    • Haha!!

      Go on, be a devil!!

      I’ve already ordered the CD set from Paul. I’ve also just convinced myself to have the vinyl boxset for my birthday next month. It’s a great album – like most Ultravox albums!


  76. Dean says:

    I wasn’t interested in this previously. I’m a big fan of the Foxx years, but they tailed off quite quickly once success came to them, imo. I have the album on Vinyl from back in the day, and it does have some good tracks – Vienna is a great song – but overall it just hasn’t been of much interest.

    But then Steve Wilson got involved, and did a 5.1 mix! Now you’re talking. Even though I’m “meh” about much of the music, I’ll always give Wilson’s work a go. And that price…. reasonable for once. Ordered.

  77. Mike T says:

    Can I ask if this is a UK issue only, or will it be released in the US? Do we know?

    • Tom M says:

      @ Mike T I’ve already pre-ordered from websites in the states as many will handle it as an import. Prices are reasonable as well.

  78. Carl says:

    By the way this tipped the balance this year , had to break it to the wife , cost me 2 dresses.

  79. Ian Williams says:

    Prince, Lou Reed, New Order and now Ultravox. Looks like no Christmas presents for the family this year…

  80. Martin York says:

    Excellent! Love this album (though I agree that I’d also be first in the queue for something similar for the albums when John Foxx was in the group).

    Happily placed a pre-order in the SDE shop to help support the site. Thanks again Paul!

  81. dave says:

    Thanks for letting us know
    just ordered the exclusive 4LP clear vinyl box set,
    from there web page

  82. Jarek says:


    thx a lot for this great news. It sounds i teresting another mix by Steven thus I am curious how good he was with a new romantic music.

    Apart from this another question , i would like to understand why some artists who decide to release deluxe avoid including Bluray instead of Dvd. I wonder if it is really much more expensive to release on BR?

    Many thanks,

    • Billy D says:

      Because they think older listeners are still watching cathode ray tube televisions and won’t bother with the upgrade to bluray. Plus most of us can no longer hear very well and high quality audio wouldn’t matter.

    • Simon Musselle says:

      Blu ray licensing costs are much higher than DVD, that’s all.

  83. Mike the Fish says:

    Now this is a much more sensible price point for me! I’m happy with the 12″ format and the musical material being greater in content, rather than lots of paperwork. That promo edit being vinyl only is a bit cheeky though.

  84. Poptones says:

    Super Deluxe Editions of Ultravox albums are long overdue !

    They should have started with the first 3 albums with John Foxx (instead of the first one with Midge Ure as lead singer). Vienna is a pretty good album but certainly not as good and as creative as the first 3 albums.

    CD 1 and 3 of this SDE is pretty much the same content of the 2008 Deluxe Edition (even if it’s not the same master). That said, as this SDE of Vienna is reasonably priced, I will probably buy it.

  85. Mark V says:

    How annoying the Vienna US Edit is only on the vinyl edition. I don’t have a turntable!

    Still ordered the box though :-)

  86. Nik Yeomans says:

    An excellent release. The only fault I can see is that it appears that “Face To Face”, live at St Albans, is duplicated on the clear vinyl set.

  87. Klaus says:

    As an SDE almost as good as the Marillion or Jethro Tull-Releases. Only the price is higher but compared to other upcoming releases i’d still call it reasonable.
    Went right back to (after earlier today based on Paul’s post on the new/old Black Sabbath-box ordering a copy of the 2009 2cd+dvd release of “Paranoid”) and ordered a copy.

    Oh, but +1 for feeling it’s a shame that the surround stuff isn’t pressed onto blu-ray with the additional possibility of adding some video content.

    Paul, you wrote answering another post that blu-ray is much more expensive for licensing than dvd.

    Could you explain why that is so?

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      There’s a link here. It’s thousands of pounds/dollars a year just for the privilege of having a blu-ray in your set >

      • Timp says:

        That’s genuinely really interesting, I had no idea!

      • Klaus says:

        Thanks Paul.

        So if i got this right the record labels who release content on blu-ray have to pay licensing fees to the companies who developed the format just to use the blu-ray logo?

        Does that apply to dvd too, just in smaller amounts, or are dvds not subject to licensing fees?

      • Leemer says:

        Hi Paul, that is interesting. Is that per project, or for each content provider? So Warners pays $3K for 5 years and SONY pays $3K for 5 years, or is it each box set where a BluRay disc is included? I could be wrong, but I read it as the former, rather than the latter. I may be wrong, but I do not think that a content producer has to drop $15K on a box set to include the BluRay Disc. There might be a per disc BD royalty payment. As SONY and Warners and other content providers already have licenses, I think they do not want to bother to issue music at such high resolutions.


        • Derek Langsford says:

          I read Paul’s link as $3K per year. So $15K for 5 years.

          Doesn’t seem like much if one is paying £50 for a set with say 2000 copies (£7.50 per copy). The cost goes down with the more copies sold. Of course if there are additional costs to master and produce a Blu-ray v. a DVD, it might add more than a total of £10 to the cost per set while reducing sales. And figuring out how to gauge demand for DVD v Blu-ray is tricky. Doing both in separate packages makes some sense but might confuse some buyers. That may be why most issues only have one or the other: Marillion -blu-ray, Tull – DVD, XTC Blu-ray, etc.

          I would expect to pay more for a blu-ray – £10 or more even.

      • Mathew Lauren says:

        Still prefer (DSD) 5.1, hybrid-SACD or “headless,” autoplay, 5.1 Blu-ray!

        That said, this seems (like) another opportunity for a proper 5.1 DVD-AUDIO (MLP) w/5.1 dts option.

        At least the DVD-V features the competent 5.1 dts 24/96 codec to showcase the music and SW’s mix!

        • Paul Sinclair says:

          Yes, but SACD is so niche these days, it’s not really ever going to be included in a mainstream rock/pop box set like this.

          • Amanda says:

            That is unfortunately true, but some of the very best remasters I have and it is quite a collection, have been DSF, from DSD/SACD. SACD has never stopped, even in the pop, rock, jazz fields, see the recent UK Vocalion issues, many taken from CBS Quad orginals, but Universal still regularly issues DVD/SACD (non-hybrid), mainly remasters of Classic albums from their catalogue, Japan only release, which costs to import to the UK . US companies, like Intervention Records, also join in, issuing for example Joe Jackson’s ‘Body And Soul’ in the last few weeks on SACD, no UK outlet made that harder than the Japanese issues to get hold off, but it sounds superb, Joe is very pleased with the results! A UK outlet, with more realistic pricing, comparable with the host country release, would appeal to many. Most DACS I encounter, such as the Audiolab MDAC+, have dedicated DSD processing, and it is fairly easy to rip your SACD collection to a NAS device, and the included software on e.g. QNAP devices, Musicstation, allows direct DSD, via DSF file, output to the Audiolab, put a JBL, or preferably Neumann powered monitor on the XLR balanced outputs and that is some replay system. I would join a ‘dead’ SACD society, at least. Ultravox have gone quite some way to satisfying the high res need by including the DVD surround and stereo files, these are extractable to flat files for NAS users, so getting this is a no brainer for me.

  88. Alan Jones says:

    Thanks for the heads-up Paul. Truly one of my favourite albums. First heard it being being played in full and purchased at Virgin Records, High Street Kensington, London on Saturday 12 July 1980 (the day after release) and I new instantly this was something special. Paul sorry I’ve gone for the 4LP clear vinyl from the official site with the super deluxe CD from Amazon (just so I can spread the cost a little what with HMV exclusives and RSD also on the horizon).

  89. Andrew Sellers says:

    Was hoping they might have include the original album title Torque Point, I saw art for this years ago – but never read the reason for the lat change. Still nice looking box!

    • Ex-Oligarch says:

      Apparently the phrase “Torque Point” was a band in-joke, which the members viewed as a hilariously bad album title. They pranked various label and management employees by proposing it as a title, which backfired when it accidentally wound up on a few (now very rare) test pressings.

      The music itself is reportedly identical to the released album.

      • Andrew says:

        yes – and further to that WH Smith managed to run a press ad for Torque Point as a forthcoming release, either way it would have been a v poor album title.

  90. Gary says:

    £52 billy bargain for the cd dvd box
    Lots of nice xtras and nice to see what Sgt Wilson has been up to during the lockdown haha!!!!

  91. Graham says:

    Very exciting. Great album released during my Uni days. Simpler times. Quite a lot on pre order with the SDE shop. Looking forward to all of them. McCartney reissues book arrived this morning – another cracking piece of work. Keep it up Paul.

  92. Steven_Wilsons_Prog_Cat says:

    My favourite ultravox album!!!!… I need this but buying Prince sign o the Times, the deluxe of the upcoming fish album and the steven wilson deluxe I’ll need to Don my face mask and Rob a bank!!!!

  93. Graeme S says:

    The first album I ever bought and still one of the best after all these years. Looking fwd to this.

  94. Glen says:

    Holy crap, awesome news. Definite buy for me!

  95. Andy B says:

    Massive Ultravox fan here. Vienna was the first album I ever got. I’ve been so excited about this.

    In terms of content there’s not a great deal more they could have included. Although is there any reason why they couldn’t have included the videos, TOTP appearances, and the filmed Vienna and Sleepwalk live in St Albans clips on the DVD? Just for completion sake. Especially as the Vienna video is so iconic.

    I’m particularly looking forward to the cassette recordings in rehearsal.

  96. Steve W says:

    That is a VERY good box set of an excellent album. I am tempted but as I’ve got the previous remaster double album I’m not quite sure.

  97. Jan says:

    highly recommended if you’ve not already seen it. Great Ultravox footage.

  98. johnny says:

    Any chance of a 40th box set for ‘Shaddap You Face’ ?

  99. Robert Hammond says:

    The lack of videos / visual media is a real shame, but yes – brilliant stuff! I hope the rest of the back catalogue gets a similar treatment.

  100. Dave H says:

    Fantastic and totally unexpected to read about this release. A reissue with 44 unreleased tracks and the bonus of hearing Vienna in 5.1 surround, this is how you sell a reissue of an album you already own in multiple versions.

    It’s also great that a release from the 1980’s has been given the 5.1 treatment. Along with recent XTC, Tears For Fears, Bryan Adams and Guns N’ Roses reissues, there hasn’t been many considering the amount of albums released in the era that could benefit with a 5.1 mix.

    Both Peter Gabriel and Howard Jones didn’t bother even though they already created 5.1 mixes for their video releases. It’s also nice that the DVD contains hi-res versions of the stereo and 5.1 mixes probably more to do with Steven Wilson working on the mixes.

    Let’s hope this is the beginning of some other 40th anniversary editions especially for 2021.

    • Eamonn says:

      Yes, here’s looking at you, Dare. Human League are touring the album for the 40th anniversary subject to covid being exterminated by the end of next year. I’d expect a super deluxe readied in time for that.

  101. Alan R says:

    Ruddy Heck, yes please Paul ! Duly ordered this and XTC vinyl from SDE immediately. Great stuff.

  102. Andrea says:

    I heard this was coming, but I couldn’t find any confirmation so far. That’s a must for me, price is reasonable, content is great, even if I would have liked some live footage as well on DVD. I think it’s interesting to compare the different packaging approach between this one and Definitive Editions by New Order. Here we are closer to Simple Minds DE, lots of audio including 5.1 and average booklets, while New Order DEs are based on rare video footage, vinyl/cd repetition and stunning books. Pricing strategy is very different, without vinyl content New Order DEs would have been much more affordable and leaving potential customers with the choice between vinyl and CD. But I guess they know die-hard fans will buy New Order DE anyway…

  103. Bram says:

    YES! Finally Ultravox in 5.1! Let’s hope they give Rage in Eden a go as well. Oh and why not the 2 Visage albums Midge Ure was involved in? :-)

    • Norbert says:

      Exactly my thought… at least for the 1st Visage, which still sounds stunning and sometimes remarkably heavy (“The dancer”, “The steps”) to me. I would go as far as to say, that the 1st Visage is in fact another U-Vox record – just with a different singer.
      An often overlooked gem and almost reduced to “Fade to grey”, which – of course – is a great tune, even 40 years on…
      Anyway, a great set at a killer price – an offer, you can’t refuse… so i keep waiting to hear the glorious “Vienna” in surround – and this means something to me ;-)

  104. Kevin Henry says:

    I often read the reply secton even though I am not interested in the album or artist out of interest and there are occasions (recent Prince SotT) when I think yes I wouldn’t mind that. This, however is a must. I bought the album 1980 as an 18 year old and still love it to this day. One of my favourite albums ever. Waiting is one of the classic b-sides and I so wish it had been included on the album originally. Hopefuly Rage in Eden next year.

  105. Mike says:

    Excellent set. Will be ordering from the SDE shop as soon as I finish work

  106. adam shaw says:

    DVD audio ! Why no blu ray audio ? Or blu ray with audio and videos ?
    It is 2020 isn’t it ?

    • Bram says:

      If they go for an older format, why not SACD? That would be my preference to be honest…

    • Lorne Thomson says:

      Ah shaddap-a you face!

    • Paul Sinclair says:

      It’s quite expensive to do blu-ray in terms of licensing etc. At least that DVD is packed with audio content.

      • Francois says:

        Well it is true that, all licenses, authoring software and manufacturing costs included, a blu ray costs twice as much to produce. This said, that would add around 10% to the final product (which any one here would be willing to pay for such a product I think). Or even better, I would happily have contributed to a crowd funding of a bluray release. I am always wondering why records companies do not use that means to help build “better” products.
        All in all, I’m pretty sure that the cost of hiring Steven Wilson to do the surround mix is an investment that was high enough to justify a blu ray release..
        Would you be able to get the number of units required in this DVD format for the company to begin making profits?

    • Arnd says:

      It’s likely not even DVD-Audio, but only DVD-Video with sound against a black picture. Too few people own DVD-A capable players.

  107. Tim says:

    Well, that was an easy decision….

  108. Trevor Smith says:

    At last, a box set that I am 100% excited about! One of my all time favourite albums. Hope Rage In Eden gets the same treatment afterwards!

  109. Maxe says:

    It’s in Steven Wilson manner, as I am used to have by Jethro Tull releases.
    Really looking forward to this.

  110. Gareth Jones says:

    A Vienna boxset? This means nothing to me!

  111. Adam Davis says:

    Bloody hell, it’s turning into the year of the box sets to save our misery but destroy our bank accounts.

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